http://www.pcworld.fr/2009/09/23/ma...tel-developer-forum-idf-2009-mini-itx/449091/
look like its got
PCI-express x16
2 Slot DDR3
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look like its got
PCI-express x16
2 Slot DDR3
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pureaxis...
Appreciate you posting this link, looks like I'll be planning out the new rig sooner than I thought. I'm going to couple this mobo with the new Originae M10 case coming out.
Again, thanks...
Liquid Cool
According to the "Google Translation", this is by MSI?
Someone on the software side needs to come up with something to actually utilize all the performance we keep cramming into smaller and smaller boxes...
I think there is only one version of the LGA1156 socket, which serves both the P55 and H57 PCHs (pretty new name for a Southbridge, huh? And a great way to kick its prices up, too...).Will it work with lynnfield CPUs?
I think there is only one version of the LGA1156 socket, which serves both the P55 and H57 PCHs (pretty new name for a Southbridge, huh? And a great way to kick its prices up, too...).
In short, that means you can probably fit ANY socket LGA1156 Core i3, i5 or i7 CPU in any motherboard with any of those two PCHs, provided the BIOS has code to recognize them. I also believe that's the main reason why there's a PCIe 16x slot on that motherboard (since, well, GPUs on shorter slots are REALLY difficult to come by).
The slightly longer answer adds the following information (based on educated guesses, of course): since Lynnfield CPUs lack IGP, putting one on an H57-based motherboard will render the video outputs useless; conversely, putting a Clarkdale CPU on a P55 motherboard will most likely shut down the IGP, except for the PCIe controller part. Which might prove to be great for OC: since the integrated PCIe controller on the Lynnfield parts seems to somewhat limit OC capabilities, you might just loose that handicap with Clarkdale+P55. Though you'll loose half the processing cores, of course...
I can't wait to see mini-ITX H57 boards out, and like sub-100 Clarkdale CPUs. Can you say über-cheap, über-small HTPC? And with ridiculously low power requirements... Right now, the least power-hungry Intel chips seem to be the 3000 series Cellys (sub-30W at all times for the whole CPU power circuitry), but these guys go sub-30W for the whole system... Damn!
I'll keep an eye on this thread.
Cheers.
Miguel
The cpu socket placement seems awkard could complicate getting a gpu in the PCI-e slot.
Will it work with lynnfield CPUs?
Unless Intel wants to shoot itself in both feet, they'll keep one socket with interdependent use of P55/H57 for Clarkdale and Lynnfield. Too much market and SKU fragmentation, even for Intel standards.Of course the CPU pin-outs are the same, but I'm not so sure that H57 + Lynnfield i5/7 will work or conversely P55 + Clarkdale...
Hmm, Clarkdale IS 32nm, AFAIK. Except for the IGP core, which is 45nm.By then there would probably be better CPU offering (32nm?) and alternate highend coolers to h50. Can't wait!
Yes, that socket seems to have been placed by a Feng shui adept.Hard to say about the CPUs. But I sort of agree with the socket, quite limiting regarding what kind of a heat sink you can put there. For me, given I now have the SG03 system, it'd be fine with just the IGP. Price and such will determine if I'll get one eventually.
Well that depends, if you mean the stock ones, the LGA1156 stock cooler is nothing short of a jet engine at least Much worse than the Q6600 stock cooler. One of the biggest challenges of tiny socketed mini-ITX systems is indeed silent cooling though.That plus the fact Intel coolers are not the whiners they were back in the day, my guess is you probably won't REALLY need a big cooler for Clarkdale.
Hope Asus realizes that there IS a market for Mini ITX mobos and comes out with one too.
Well, actually my Celeron E1200 stock cooler is a mess (3-pin design, so constant full speed while the board is on...). But I have a couple of them (E4300, original E6300) that are actually well behaved.Well that depends, if you mean the stock ones, the LGA1156 stock cooler is nothing short of a jet engine at least Much worse than the Q6600 stock cooler. One of the biggest challenges of tiny socketed mini-ITX systems is indeed silent cooling though.
It seems either a Mini-PCIe slot, as someone else already said, or that weird Turbo Memory Gen2 slot Intel had been talking about for so long. Though I thought that was discontinued...What is that slot thing just between the heatsink and the DVI port? Is it a RAM slot? or a PCI x4 slot? I'm confused.
Hope Asus realizes that there IS a market for Mini ITX mobos and comes out with one too.
Hmm, while it's true Intel has let other manufacturers release motherboards before something Intel-built is on the market, I don't get where you came up with the "dual channel only X58". AFAIK, the Intel X58 board has 4 RAM slots but triple channel all the same... Three slots make triple channel available, and the fourth one just piggybacks on the first slot (thanks to the Flex Memory technology, you can still have Dual/Triple Channel with one channel having more memory than the other).Intel has let their Tier 1 partners release motherboards w/o Intel releasing similar boards for a while now. Recent example was their X58. It has Dual Channel RAM only while everyone else had Triple Channel boards and made some nice coin with 2-300 boards.
Well, if G45 and Atom are any indications, then you might be (hopefully) wrong AFAIK, Asus and Gigabyte took a couple of months after the D945GCLF was available to get their Atom boards on the market. And the Intel G45 mini-ITX board is still the only one available...I am sure they will be slow to release a Mini-ITX before their partners.
Most links I've run across discussing this board claim it will indeed support Lynnfield.Of course the CPU pin-outs are the same, but I'm not so sure that H57 + Lynnfield i5/7 will work or conversely P55 + Clarkdale...
That's my fear exactly.Of course, I'm still kind of worried they all may be wrong, but Intel would look foolish by doubly fragmenting their market.