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Comparison between Samsung and LG game modes. Sure it's the c9, but then CX can't be that different.
He's right. Was just at Walmart the other day in the USA, had lots of 70" 4K TV's for like $550 and 65" 4K TV's for like $450 (Samsung 2018 NU6900 series so no "made-in-china" brands or anything). This 48" TV will be what? $1,500~$2,000 on launch? 99 out of 100 average joes would rather go for the 70" for 3x less the price (their loss but can't blame them for the price to size ratio).
Let's be honest though, the Q60 is still better than what most people buy.Pretty much this, that's why the high end tv's went the way of the Dodo. Boggles my mind how people can't / won't see the picture quality differences. My sister in law even mocked the fact that I still have a Panasonic 65 inch VT60 plasma because it was so "big" and her brand new Samsung Q60 QLED (didn't know it was that obviously) was so thin and bright. Obviously she has in stock mode with all the visual *enhancements* turned on. I'm just waiting to move house and get the 77" OLED, she flipped when she found out how much that is. Genuinely doesn't know there's any difference over what she got.
If you don't care you don't care I guess. It's like arguing with my wife that I want a Range Rover or XC90, she doesn't see the point over our Honda CR-V. "It's just a car"
Let's be honest though, the Q60 is still better than what most people buy.
It took me many years of PC building and using to understand how important screen and input system is.Same reason so many people have $200 1080p 24 inch screens. Increasingly it seems with expensive gaming rigs as well
Comparison between Samsung and LG game modes. Sure it's the c9, but then CX can't be that different.
I cringe when he says "QLED" TV. It's a LCD TV. Not sure why anyone would buy one of those POS's versus the OLED.
Because it's a QLED, bruh. The guy at Best Buy told me how amazing they are compared to those older LED TVs.
Plus, Q comes after O in the alphabet, so like...QLED must be better than OLED anyway. Plus they are so much more affordable! Personally, I'm waiting for the ZLED sets though.
Comparison between Samsung and LG game modes. Sure it's the c9, but then CX can't be that different.
So I decided to test on my 55" OLED on what the 48" would look/play like inset on the 55" size. I was quite surprised on how much of a difference that 7 inches makes. It definitely took a lot of the "OMG this is huge" vibe away and plays much more manageable when it's back against the wall on your desk. If you have a 55" 4K and wish to test yourself, set a custom resolution to 3280x1844. Granted you won't have the full 4K clarity but it's still good to test the size.
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Yeah, my 48" Samsung definitely felt less like I had a TV on my desk. Obviously the PQ, image clarity and input lag are nowhere near the OLED but it is a more manageable size for those who are intimidated by 55" or find it unwieldy.
Think about it...43" is a fairly common size for large format monitors (Philips, Asus and Acer have -- or will have if they don't already -- multiple SKUs in the 43" monitor class). 48" isn't too much of a stretch from that. Noticeably larger, sure, but at 48" you're closer to the more common 43" size than 55".
My second goal is to find some top flight adjustable tv arm where I can move the tv further away or closer at will for different types of content to get the best of all worlds.
You'll need some kind of adapter plate since LG uses 300 x 200 mm for the OLEDs and those products only seem to go up to 200 x 200.
I used a 55 on my desk for two years, the 48 looks so much more reasonable, thanks for sharing this.So I decided to test on my 55" OLED on what the 48" would look/play like inset on the 55" size. I was quite surprised on how much of a difference that 7 inches makes. It definitely took a lot of the "OMG this is huge" vibe away and plays much more manageable when it's back against the wall on your desk. If you have a 55" 4K and wish to test yourself, set a custom resolution to 3280x1844. Granted you won't have the full 4K clarity but it's still good to test the size.
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Hey, that's only €49.500 before VAT. Speaking of, that would make the 48" €1.500 before VAT, which would be $1,336 USD. I believe I had guessed that it would be around $1,200 USD earlier in the thread, so looks like I was close. Prices on goods imported from southeast Asia are usually cheaper in the US than Europe, so it may very well be selling at that price when it arrives here.Some (European) availability and price information.
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/news/82c82c8
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Rollable 65" model (OLED65RX9LA) is quite... pricey
Good to know LG are ripping off US customers at product launch. Reinforces the idea of waiting until prices go down later in the year.LG historically prices Euros the same to Dollars (at least with 65" and smaller). So it's likely that the 48CX will also be $1800.
Keep in mind, this is starting sub $2000 MSRP. So it's a safe bet that come holiday 2020, it'll be marked down to somewhere around $1200.
Flatpanels HD also has the pricing: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1583301601
Good to know LG are ripping off US customers at product launch. Reinforces the idea of waiting until prices go down later in the year.
People have now been using the previous generations as monitors for a few years.
No burn-in issues even if you play say, a HDR game with fixed UI elements for many hours per day? (destiny2, bfv maybe?)
What's the best hdmi custom resolution overclock currently possible on 2080ti with hdmi2.1 VRR still functional?
Absolutely zero no burn-in after playing hours of HDR games and leaving Windows desktop on without screensaver for several hours. Albeit in SDR mode. Just did it today and no burn-in. Just left the screen on with different windows open for 3 hours, just like a normal PC monitor and there is no burn-in. Just don't cut the power to the display, because it runs the pixel refresher procedure when it's turned off, that corrects the temporary burn-in that may occur.No burn-in issues even if you play say, a HDR game with fixed UI elements for many hours per day? (destiny2, bfv maybe?)
Absolutely zero no burn-in after playing hours of HDR games and leaving Windows desktop on without screensaver for several hours. Albeit in SDR mode. Just did it today and no burn-in. Just left the screen on with different windows open for 3 hours, just like a normal PC monitor and there is no burn-in. Just don't cut the power to the display, because it runs the pixel refresher procedure when it's turned off, that corrects the temporary burn-in that may occur.
... games use hybrid log gamma where you can move the white point and gamma brighter which can make things out of bounds one extreme or the other. IDK of much content that would blast max nits fullscreen sustained unless it was a poorly done game with a bad white point/gamma scale.
Benn running my C7 for a little over two years now, with absolutely no burn-in.
I run Win10 dark mode + black screensaver, but otherwise I leave it on for hours. I just happen to vary whatever I'm doing with it enough that burn-in is not an issue.
I turn off HDR Mode on the desktop for browsing/reading, but it's a quick switch to turn it back on.
Screensaver is probably key. I suspend my LCD monitors after a considerable period but I haven't used a screen saver in years on my pc. My nvidia shield uses an image gallery screen saver by default on my living room tv though, which is a fald VA tv for now.
It's just how the television pricing industry works and honestly, I love it! It's the same in Canada and I'm sure most other countries.Good to know LG are ripping off US customers at product launch. Reinforces the idea of waiting until prices go down later in the year.