Considering that we just started phasing out office 2003 last year (2012) it would have cost us $900 per machine @ $100/year. No thanks.
$900 per 5 machines you mean?
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Considering that we just started phasing out office 2003 last year (2012) it would have cost us $900 per machine @ $100/year. No thanks.
I can definitely understand this sentiment. However, for many people Open Office just doesn't cut it. You need the real deal for somethings, especially where compatibility is paramount.
False, they would do it with LaTeX.What I am saying is that if one is trying to impress with an office document, would one do so with Open Office or Libre Office?
...as apposed to FREE open Office???
Sales of Office to home users is about to halt completely.
I can guarantee my customer base has NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER in paying $100/yr for a 5 machine subscription that expires and it stops working. NONE. ZERO.
They WILL pay the $120-140 for the Office 2010 that they have been buying for the retail version. Installs on 3 computers. Customer has media and can install on any systems they choose.
People buy a license to office and expect to use it for 5-7 YEARS.
The subscription is going to be the end of Office. Maybe it is time. I like the Windows operating system fine, but MS has made a fatal mistake with its Office decisions. Time for other software to replace the Office suite.
I will NEVER subscribe to a yearly fee for an office software package. Can't see anyone I know doing that either. 365 will flop.
People pay for google docs? /boggle
I thought it was free, and I don't / won't use that either. I used amipro before word, and word perfect before that. I'll use, and pay for, the next best office program that I can, you know, OWN - as opposed to rent.
Obviously you only use office software for very basic tasks. That is fine, but do not presume to know that everyone shares your same needs. MS Office provides many more features than OpenOffice can, or ever will. They have money to put in it, simple as that. Have you ever tried to do an online document share with an oo doc? Or perhaps manipulate pivot tables on multiple computers?
OO is a great tool for people just doing basic things. For some, MS is really the only viable option however. You may think $1.67 per month per computer is expensive, but for some people it is chump change.
I'll admit that I've never had any reason do work pivot tables. But, I have dealt with companies of 200+ employees that operate in multiple US states. I know that there is not any software out there that can be seen as a one size fits all for everyone. But to claim that MS Office is the real deal and OO is somehow a lesser thing is just completely absurd. I do still feel that Excel is one of MS's greatest programs however.
As for online shared documents:
I just think this is better done through password protected DHTML webpages (perhaps on secure webservers).
As for compatibility:
The biggest problem here is from MS itself. This isn't just OO, different versions of MS Office have this issue between themselves too. This creates certain other problems when it comes to companies making the decision to make sweeping changes across hundreds to computers on their own network (even if you completely forget OO). That $1.67 can easily turn into tens of thousands of dollars very quickly. Big corporations might see this as a business expense and just write it all off but smaller family owned companies tend to have a hard time justifying it.
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As for Google Docs:
I've never seen this as secure enough to use at all.
I really don't understand any of the business decisions Microsoft has made in the last year or two. What the fuck are they doing?
200+ employees? LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, the custom applications that I manage are primary LOB apps for 10 times that number and that's only about 1% of out employees. What the fuck do you guys think is enterprise?
In my position I recently departed, the company was busy struggling--and hemorrhaging--money in development costs trying to integrate OO into the flagship software product.
Granted I never had a very high opinion of the dev team there, but there was no way they would be able to shoe-horn OO in place of what they made work through Word and Excel to integrate with the in-house application.
This was for a software package that would involve over 10,000 users in our SaaS environment and probably the same number in locally or privately hosted sites.
While it might be costly, there just was no substitute for MS Office. But now that I'm away from that enterprise environment, I can only imagine future licensing costs the suits are going to have to deal with. They'll probably lay off IT staff.
Small businesses and education make up the vast majority of that market, neither of which exactly need to be paying for MS Office in the first place.
Also LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My question is how long will Office 365 stay at $100.00 per year? I'm sure it will not be the same in a couple of years.
...Give people an absolutely free piece of software that does everything that the not free stuff does and of course people will adopt is droves.
If you could replace just 1/10th of the ad-ins that we use in MS Office whereI work you wouldn't be LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ing me or anyone else because you'd be so rich you wouldn't have time for poor people on forums like this. Give people an absolutely free piece of software that does everything that the not free stuff does and of course people will adopt is droves.
I doubt it. There are too many people with the thinking that the only good software worth using must be "paid for". The prevailing thought is that if it's free, it's worthless or unsafe. This is what I find so perplexing. This kind of thinking creates more problems than it solves.
Is there anything else you wish to enlighten us with? Perhaps you can throw in a few more LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s.
I like free software just as much as the next guy, but to have any reasonable expectation for it to have the same features and support as an business product (read: paid for) is nonsense and therefore do not expect nor desire it.
I personally don't need 5 licenses for $100. Maybe I need 2. Then again, I am fine running 2010 until its out of support at which point the payment for 2013 or whatever the product is at that time is a reasonable expenditure. I am single, so this scenario makes sense. If I had a family with multiple users of the product then the 5 licenses for $100 becomes a much better deal. I suspect quite a lot of people fall into that category which is why there is a product for it.
200+ employees? LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, the custom applications that I manage are primary LOB apps for 10 times that number and that's only about 1% of out employees. What the fuck do you guys think is enterprise?
200+ employees? LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, the custom applications that I manage are primary LOB apps for 10 times that number and that's only about 1% of out employees. What the fuck do you guys think is enterprise?
200+ employees? LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, the custom applications that I manage are primary LOB apps for 10 times that number and that's only about 1% of out employees. What the fuck do you guys think is enterprise?
Nonsense. Give people a free alternative to that which costs money that does all that they need and of course the free solution wins 10 times out of 10. .
Here you go with your fucking bullshit again. Trying to pass your opinion as fact again. You ever heard of people choosing name brands over lesser known brands even if lesser known brand are sufficient and cheaper?
Here you go with your fucking bullshit again. Trying to pass your opinion as fact again. You ever heard of people choosing name brands over lesser known brands even if lesser known brand are sufficient and cheaper?
I've tried OO multiple times. I got tired of the formatting errors that always came with it when attempting to open documents created with MS Office and vice versa. I'm satisfied with my Office 2010 and will be until it's no longer supported.