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No, don't bother paying extra for useless USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbit support...
...It's not a good solution...
I am not sure that you would be paying more than $10 extra for this support, since both P6TD Deluxe and P6T Deluxe are both just $10 less.
At least, if we are solely talking ASUS boards.
Which is the current best ASUS 1366 solution?
USB 3.0 is great, but let's get hard drives that can saturate SATA 1 before we get ahead of ourselves with "future proofing" for SATA 3.
hard drives that can saturate SATA 1 before we get ahead of ourselves with "future proofing" for SATA 3.
Sata 6Gbit useless?
And who the heck uses tripple graphics cards in SLI/Crossfire? I believe the OP was on about processors, not GPU's so that should be the main concern.
What will the computer be used for? Since that might determine the expansion slots you'll need. No of PCI-E 16 (not just for graphics, raid cards too) 8, 4, 1, pci and pci-x.
Also if you intend to buy into SSDs then SATA3 is a good investment for the future and saves taking up slots on your motherboard with controller cards. USB3.0 is great for newer peripherals, external drive/raid arrays, transferring to (hopefully anyway) pmp's at much faster rates once faster memory becomes common.
32nm chips wont be out till q1/2 at the earliest and from what ive read those will be i9 6 core chips. I wouldnt wait, grab a i7 920, overclock the tits out of it.
USB 3.0 is great, but let's get hard drives that can saturate SATA 1 before we get ahead of ourselves with "future proofing" for SATA 3.
Doubt it, they are only 260/260MB/s and just a tad faster than a single Vertex, it takes 3 Vertex 128/250 to max it out and that is still not a big issue as when it is needed we have a better "new gen" CPU here and better (X68?)boards and as always there is nothing that is more "future proof" than other things when things go forward rapidly.Uh, SSDs, supposedly the new OCZ Colossus doesn't have a problem saturating Sata 3 Gbit/s (SATA II). Crucial has new Sata 6 Gbit/s (SATA 3) drives announced, supposed to be shipping 1st quarter 2010.
I would not bother paying just for SATA III support. However I think faster USB is a must; even my 16GB Apacer can manage to max out the USB2 connection, and I have no doubt with flash drives becoming larger and faster, bigger drives from more reputable companies like Corsair and Kingston have no trouble saturating the USB2 connection. This is not to mention all the USB external hard drives (though I haven't actually seen a USB3 HDD yet, though I'm sure that this will come very quickly when USB3 support becomes more widespread).No, don't bother paying extra for useless USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gbit support. There is only one USB 3.0 and one SATA 6Gbit controller (from NEC and Marvell respectively).
ASUS has implemented SATA 6Gbit better than the others, but it still isn't perfect. That Marvell controller connects to the chipset with a single PCI Express (1.0 or 2.0) lane. ASUS is using a PLX bridge chip to bridge two PCIe 1.0 lanes into a single PCIe 2.0 lane. That offers double the bandwidth of competing implementations, but two SSDs or even a Micron RealSSD and a decent hard drive will probably saturate that link. It's not a good solution.
The best solution, of course, is for Intel to finally release the ICH11 with real SATA 6Gbit support. And I'm guessing that'll happen within 6 months judging by their historical release cycle on the ICH southbridges. If you need to build now I suggest a cheaper board such as the EVGA SLI LE or the ASUS P6T (the vanilla version, not Deluxe) as a temporary board until ICH11 is released and boards are available.
Workstation Revolution has 6 PCI-E 16x slots which you can use any 1,4,8 or 16x card in - although I'm not sure what speed all the slots run at though. I think it also has the SAS controller.
Doubt it, they are only 260/260MB/s and just a tad faster than a single Vertex, it takes 3 Vertex 128/250 to max it out and that is still not a big issue as when it is needed we have a better "new gen" CPU here and better (X68?)boards and as always there is nothing that is more "future proof" than other things when things go forward rapidly.
Besides you won't notice the difference unless you are a hardcore user of BIG files and need the speed but then only the bigger is of intreste and they are just expensive for storage, "Need" as casual user there is PCIe controllercard for you out when you really need it.
Look at the z-drive's, they're already past SATA 3 speeds.
I looked at your sig and honestly I would just wait.
Sata 6Gbit useless? you mad mate. Ever heard of this thing called future proofing? .
No it does not sature it, Colossus does only have about 70% of the capability of SATA2:s 3Gbit/s acording to there MAX specs that is only 260MB/s.. So i dont doubt it, they dont acording to the MAX specs that are just that MAX and is just low compared to 3xVertex that truley max out the specs of SATA2..You doubt what, that they can't saturate SATA II like I said? Those speeds are saturating SATA II, you think there's no overhead? Look at the z-drive's, they're already past SATA 3 speeds.
No it does not sature it, Colossus does only have about 70% of the capability of SATA2:s 3Gbit/s acording to there MAX specs that is only 260MB/s.. So i dont doubt it, they dont acording to the MAX specs that are just that MAX and is just low compared to 3xVertex that truley max out the specs of SATA2..
ASUS has implemented SATA 6Gbit better than the others, but it still isn't perfect...
It is 375MB/s that is the max of SATA2 so 260MB/s is not even close, just almost there but not close enouth to call it anything special or say "we need SATA 3 now" and why 3 vertex is as good as it gets is because 4 dont make any inprovment over 3, actually it is slower in many instances but still have better controller than Colossus ever gonna get.How are 3 Vertex's in RAID maxing out the specs of SATA II? They're attached to 3 separate sata connections, are you saying they saturate all 3 connections in RAID but if run as a single drive they can't saturate 1 connection?
As for the Colossus, it's sequential read and write speeds of 260 MB/s are approaching the theoretical max of 300 MB/s, it's close enough to say maxing it out, we'll never know if it's a hardware limit or not. Usually with MLC SSDs your reads are faster then your writes, in the colossus case, they're the same, which leads me to believe, it's maxing out the sata connection. Since the colossus is supposedly internally raided Vertex's, which do carry a higher read max then write max, why do you think that didn't hold true for the colossus?
It is 375MB/s that is the max of SATA2 so 260MB/s is not even close, just almost there but not close enouth to call it anything special or say "we need SATA 3 now" and why 3 vertex is as good as it gets is because 4 dont make any inprovment over 3, actually it is slower in many instances but still have better controller than Colossus ever gonna get.
No max is 375MB/s by using simpe math, no way around that so 300 is just plain wrong.I'm not sure where you're getting a 375 MB/s number from, SATA Rev 2 only supports 300 MB/s because SATA uses 8b/10b encoding. 260MB/s is very close to the theoretical max that it provides, close enough to say it's there. As for RAIDed vertex's, if I'm going to spend that much, I'll just get a z-drive.
No max is 375MB/s by using simpe math, no way around that so 300 is just plain wrong.
SATA 2 would then only be called 2.4gbit and 260 cant be called close to nothing of 300 or the correct 375 because it is not close to anything, just tio far away to everthing, it is just a way to give some e-penis and "the need" of something they dont need or even know they miss.
so the P6X58D is the best SATA 6 board available now?...better then the GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD7?
There is the rumored i7 930 which will increase the clock speed to 2.8 GHz (meaning you'd have more overclocking potential with the higher multiplier), but per Intel's roadmaps (at least as of now) there will be no 32nm quad-core parts until Sandy Bridge. If rumors are correct, the 930 should be out in Q1 2010.
Do you have any idea how the SATA standard works? Go do some research and when you figure out that your simple math is wrong, come back and we can continue this conversation.
Why?
I know what i need to and 260 IS NOT close to max of anything, period. Just a way to give some longer e-pen and call the "need of" something we dont need today period. When we realy need it controllercard is out to fix that very small issue.
You're the only one talking about an e-peen as you like to call it. The rest of us are talking about new processors, motherboards and new features that they have coming out. So, while we discuss these new features and what devices take advantage of them, read up on SATA and theorectical maxes and you'll see why 260 MB/s is close to 300 MB/s and why the need for a faster standard is there.
Subsequently, a 3 Gbit/s signaling rate was added to the physical layer (PHY layer), effectively doubling maximum data throughput from 150 MB/s to 300 MB/s.