I recently settled on this kit of memory after being dissapointed with a set of Promos based 6400 C4Ds. These sticks aren't anything special that will be breaking records but another solid pair of D9GMH based modules for an excellent price. I don't post much anymore here but since there is so much talk lately of 6400 C4s here, I thought this type of testing may help some folks out in making buying decisions...enjoy.
I think everyone here is more than familiar with Team Group and their line of Xtreem memory so I won't bother with much of an introduction as it isn't necessary. I will mention that Team Group does offer a lifetime warranty on their memory and is very forward with letting you know what ICs are planted on the PCBs of each stick which is highly appreciated by this user. The fact that heatspreaders are up to the users discretion is very nice as well.
The modules I will be testing today are a retail sample I purchased. They can be found at DirectCanada.com for about $320CDN and Tank Guys has this kit listed for $287USD for you south of my border crowd. These are not hand picked or even a review sample that might have tested well, just your plain jane run of the mill package off the shelf if you will. Here is a quick list of the specifications I have put together:
Now, with the boring pleasentries out of the way, time to get to the good stuff...eye candy!
Package:
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I have already mentioned that the Team Group memory does not come with heatspreaders attached. They come in a seperate package so that the end user can decide whether or not they want them on. This makes identifying the ICs without voiding warranty as simple as reading the label. For this review, the heatspreaders will not be touching the modules. I normally take them off all of my RAM, so Team Group has saved me a step
Package Contents:
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Naked sticks look better IMO than those with heatspreaders anyway so I am partial to the plain looking memory pr0n but I have to admit, the silver heatspreaders that come with the Team Group memory are very nice indeed. Not nice enough to wreck the cool factor of stripped sticks but damn fine looking if I say so myself. Those will likely end up as a badge on something if not in a small frame on the wall...instant art. Identifying the ICs isn't brain surgery with naked sticks and we can clearly see D9GMH...is there really anything else? Other than "fatbodies" and D9GKX of course.
Install & Testing:
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Installation is straightforward and the first image is of the setup for the AMD testing. The second image gives away what will be used in conjunction with the P5B-Dlx for this review. The third image above is how the setup looked for testing on the P5B-Dlx. Here is a complete break-down of the hardware on each setup:
I have decided on a self imposed limit for the initial results on this memory at 2.6v. With the DFI board and the Maximizer, voltage is unlimited, but I need this memory to actually do some work before I go and kill it so for now...2.6v is all it will see. Time for some benches...
All results are simply dual 32M SuperPi stable...that is it, that is all. No Memtest or Prime testing is or will be done. Dual 32M SPi stable at the timings I use are pretty much going to be Prime stable with or without a bit of work on the secondaries. I like dual 32M as a stability test for memory so that is what I will show.
Also keep in mind that the voltage reading from SmartGaurdian on the AMD results reads the VDIMM about 0.11v low from what is reported in the BIOS. Enjoy...
3-3-3-X:
Intel:
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DDR800 :: 3-3-3-8 :: 2.45v
DDR820 :: 3-3-3-8 :: 2.55v
DDR830 :: 3-3-3-8 :: 2.60v
AMD:
CAS 3 didn't take too kindly to my X2 4000+, perhaps I will see if my 3200+ will be a willing participant later on in life.
4-3-3-X:
AMD:
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DDR800 :: 4-3-3-5 :: 2.25v
DDR840 :: 4-3-3-5 :: 2.45v
4-4-3-X:
Intel:
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DDR850 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.00v
DDR890 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.10v
DDR950 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.25v
DDR990 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.40v
DDR1015 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.45v
DDR1040 :: 4-4-3-8 :: 2.60v
AMD:
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DDR840 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.00v
DDR880 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.10v
DDR930 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.20v
DDR960 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.30v
DDR1040 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.47v
DDR1070 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.60v
5-4-4-X:
AMD:
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DDR940 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.00v
DDR980 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.10v
DDR1030 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.20v
DDR1070 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.33v
DDR1100 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.42v
DDR1120 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.50v
DDR1140 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.60v
5-5-4-X:
Intel:
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DDR1020 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.40v
DDR1040 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.47v
DDR1060 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.60v
AMD:
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DDR1130 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.20v
DDR1180 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.30v
DDR1200 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.45v
DDR1220 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.52v
Past DDR1220 my CPU runs out of steam without chilled water but this CPU is so badly cold bugged that it doesn't really go much past 3100MHz without a balancing act. Needless to say, this memory won't really be pushed to its limits on an AMD board until I get a better CPU. Bring on the 65nm goodness
5-5-5-8:
Intel
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DDR1020 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.00v
DDR1080 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.10v
DDR1120 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.20v
DDR1160 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.35v
DDR1200 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.50v
Finally with the 0804 BIOS and a phase change on my E6300, the 1:1 memory divider was able to clock this memory at CL5. You will notice that the DDR1120+ runs are on the 2:3 divider, I just couldn't get 560FSB+ to run dual 32M stable 1:1. That is where my stock P5B-Dlx seems to run out of steam.
So there you have it...my preliminary results from this memory kit and I am quite pleased. This memory ran very smoothly and had no problems booting in the P5B-Dlx from a freshly reset CMOS. I hope to add more results as I get them but for the most part, the bulk of what I will be posting is up. Perhaps some 680i action is in order as soon as my P5N32-E SLI comes in so look for that.
And here is a single 32M that I did with this kit of memory. This run is a bit more extreme and done with voltage that I would not recommend for anyone
The modules I will be testing today are a retail sample I purchased. They can be found at DirectCanada.com for about $320CDN and Tank Guys has this kit listed for $287USD for you south of my border crowd. These are not hand picked or even a review sample that might have tested well, just your plain jane run of the mill package off the shelf if you will. Here is a quick list of the specifications I have put together:
* Part # TXDD2048M800HC4DC
* ICs: Micron D9GMH
* Available in 1GB Dual Channel kits as well
* PC2-6400 800MHz 4-4-4-12
* 64x8 DDR2 FBGA Chips
* 240pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered DDR2 SDRAM DIMM
* Aluminum Heat-spreader
* 6 Layers Ultra Low Noises Shielded PCB
* Retail Package
* Operating Voltage: 2.0V - 2.2V
* Lifetime Warranty
Now, with the boring pleasentries out of the way, time to get to the good stuff...eye candy!
Package:
Click for full size...
I have already mentioned that the Team Group memory does not come with heatspreaders attached. They come in a seperate package so that the end user can decide whether or not they want them on. This makes identifying the ICs without voiding warranty as simple as reading the label. For this review, the heatspreaders will not be touching the modules. I normally take them off all of my RAM, so Team Group has saved me a step
Package Contents:
Click for full size...
Naked sticks look better IMO than those with heatspreaders anyway so I am partial to the plain looking memory pr0n but I have to admit, the silver heatspreaders that come with the Team Group memory are very nice indeed. Not nice enough to wreck the cool factor of stripped sticks but damn fine looking if I say so myself. Those will likely end up as a badge on something if not in a small frame on the wall...instant art. Identifying the ICs isn't brain surgery with naked sticks and we can clearly see D9GMH...is there really anything else? Other than "fatbodies" and D9GKX of course.
Install & Testing:
Click for full size...
Installation is straightforward and the first image is of the setup for the AMD testing. The second image gives away what will be used in conjunction with the P5B-Dlx for this review. The third image above is how the setup looked for testing on the P5B-Dlx. Here is a complete break-down of the hardware on each setup:
Code:
[b]AMD Setup:[/b] [b]Intel Setup:[/b]
MB: DFI LanParty NF590 SLI-M2R/G MB: Asus P5B-Dlx Wifi
CPU: AMD64 X2 4000+ (CCBYF 0620UPMW) CPU: Intel C2D E6300 (L626A453)
CPU Cooling: Asetek WaterChill CPU Cooling: Thermalright Ultra-120
PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU: Silverstone Zeus 560W
HD: Seagate SATAII 80GB 8MB NCQ HD: Seagate SATAII 80GB 8MB NCQ
OS: Windows 2K3 OS: Windows 2K3
EXTRA: Hipro-Tech.com DDR Maximizer
Ambient Temperature: 22-23C
All results are simply dual 32M SuperPi stable...that is it, that is all. No Memtest or Prime testing is or will be done. Dual 32M SPi stable at the timings I use are pretty much going to be Prime stable with or without a bit of work on the secondaries. I like dual 32M as a stability test for memory so that is what I will show.
Also keep in mind that the voltage reading from SmartGaurdian on the AMD results reads the VDIMM about 0.11v low from what is reported in the BIOS. Enjoy...
3-3-3-X:
Intel:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR800 :: 3-3-3-8 :: 2.45v
DDR820 :: 3-3-3-8 :: 2.55v
DDR830 :: 3-3-3-8 :: 2.60v
AMD:
CAS 3 didn't take too kindly to my X2 4000+, perhaps I will see if my 3200+ will be a willing participant later on in life.
4-3-3-X:
AMD:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR800 :: 4-3-3-5 :: 2.25v
DDR840 :: 4-3-3-5 :: 2.45v
4-4-3-X:
Intel:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR850 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.00v
DDR890 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.10v
DDR950 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.25v
DDR990 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.40v
DDR1015 :: 4-4-3-4 :: 2.45v
DDR1040 :: 4-4-3-8 :: 2.60v
AMD:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR840 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.00v
DDR880 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.10v
DDR930 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.20v
DDR960 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.30v
DDR1040 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.47v
DDR1070 :: 4-4-3-5 :: 2.60v
5-4-4-X:
AMD:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR940 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.00v
DDR980 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.10v
DDR1030 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.20v
DDR1070 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.33v
DDR1100 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.42v
DDR1120 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.50v
DDR1140 :: 5-4-4-5 :: 2.60v
5-5-4-X:
Intel:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR1020 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.40v
DDR1040 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.47v
DDR1060 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.60v
AMD:
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR1130 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.20v
DDR1180 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.30v
DDR1200 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.45v
DDR1220 :: 5-5-4-5 :: 2.52v
Past DDR1220 my CPU runs out of steam without chilled water but this CPU is so badly cold bugged that it doesn't really go much past 3100MHz without a balancing act. Needless to say, this memory won't really be pushed to its limits on an AMD board until I get a better CPU. Bring on the 65nm goodness
5-5-5-8:
Intel
Click link for full size screenshot...
DDR1020 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.00v
DDR1080 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.10v
DDR1120 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.20v
DDR1160 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.35v
DDR1200 :: 5-5-5-8 :: 2.50v
Finally with the 0804 BIOS and a phase change on my E6300, the 1:1 memory divider was able to clock this memory at CL5. You will notice that the DDR1120+ runs are on the 2:3 divider, I just couldn't get 560FSB+ to run dual 32M stable 1:1. That is where my stock P5B-Dlx seems to run out of steam.
So there you have it...my preliminary results from this memory kit and I am quite pleased. This memory ran very smoothly and had no problems booting in the P5B-Dlx from a freshly reset CMOS. I hope to add more results as I get them but for the most part, the bulk of what I will be posting is up. Perhaps some 680i action is in order as soon as my P5N32-E SLI comes in so look for that.
And here is a single 32M that I did with this kit of memory. This run is a bit more extreme and done with voltage that I would not recommend for anyone