Official BenQ FP241W Thread !!! Info, Pictures, Reviews

DangerlsGo, thanks for the review.

Can you elaborate on the user adjustments allowed on the screen?

Brightness
Contrast
Saturation
Hue
Sharpness
Tint
RGB Color (I believe you said this already)

Can you tell me if they have any of these options? Am I missing any that it does have? Does it have it's own color calibaration? Thanks for all your hardwork. Enjoy the lcd.
 
ToastyX said:
No, it affects all users whether they realize it or not. Just because most people don't notice the problem doesn't mean they don't have the problem. I'm tired of people claiming their monitor doesn't have the lag just because they don't notice it. Go test for it. It's there.

If they don't perceive the lag then how is it a "problem?"
 
Daggah said:
If they don't perceive the lag then how is it a "problem?"

In FPS games... your enemy comes round a corner... he sees you before you see him (because of display-lag)bang bang your dead he isn't.... you say to yourself gee I suck today.... NO PROBLEM...lol
 
ToastyX, if you're claiming it's there, the lag, then do you have your own proof? Do you own the same LCD monitor your claiming on?

The person who use the LCD monitor don't see a problem, how is that your problem? Do you own, paid for, that person monitor?

Sorry for being a little mean.
 
DieHardcc said:
It's official about 1:1 Pixel Mapping

Lack of 1:1 Pixel Mapping: The absence of this feature from the FP241W is strange, and might well be an issue to potential buyers. Without it, the image is always stretched and scaled to fill the screen rather than offering options to maintain the aspect ratio or map the pixels 1:1 via the hardware itself. It has been confirmed in the FP241W manual that this option is not available, and also by BenQ support. There may still be hope if you need to use such options, as some software (including NVIDIA display drivers) can achieve this instead.

Source:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/benq_fp241w.htm
I really hope this turns out to be incorrect. Its seriously disappointing if this device cant do 1:1 pixel mapping for 1080i/1080p content - the screen is obviously capable of it given the 1920x1200 resolution. ...please BenQ, dont cock this one up...
 
I'm not taking sides nor do I dislike the 244t, but I think your both right on this. I for one love the 244t and can't decide if I want that or the benq.

People have tested to show that the 244t has input lag but alot of lcds have it. Is it bad, not necessarily as long as it's not too great of a time length. But it's true, some people have been blowing it out of proportion, while owners of the 244t claim it's not there. Some are affected and some aren't. The real voice of advice should be from the owners point of view not the people deterred from buying it and if the buyers don't notice it, then I still believe the 244t is competitive to the benq (the samsung has one of the best color representation--the same panel is used in the Eizo).

Tests can show and prove anything, but put into real life scenarios, it can mean little or nothing.

Just trying to stop the bitterness, because life without bitterness is a life to live longer.
 
bnewton said:
I got my FP241W today from newegg! I will be posting pictures soon........
Awesome. Do you have a non-PC source you can plugin into it? ie, DVD, Xbox360 or HD-DVD/BluRay? Like everyone else, I'm keen to know what happens with the aspect ratio.
 
part 1

just some basic open box pictures.....

http://web.mac.com/bnewton/iWeb/Site/Library.html

I'm running the display with a mac pro ---

NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0393
Revision ID: 0x00a1
ROM Revision: 3004
Displays:
Display:
Status: No display connected
BenQ 241W:
Resolution: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
 
more! more! I re-ordered mine from NCIX, if my order doesn't get shipped out in the first "limited" shipment they recieve I'm going to cancel again :( :(
 
You can look at the entire OSD by accessing the monitor's manual at BenQ's site. You can see that 1:1 pixel mapping is not a choice. I give up on this monitor... I'm probably going to get a gateway fpd2185w because I'm not willing to spend more than $800.
 
ASIA911 said:
So please enlighten us what other 24" LCD monitors out there that's better than the Benq? I have only see one review for this monitor so far and I don't know how you can say such a thing.

From my perspective, people have all owned the following monitors and reported no major problems with PC use (gaming, web, pictures, etc). They all have some problems reported by a fraction of their users, but on the whole, they are all decent monitors for PC use. From what I can see, there is no revolutionary technology in this Benq monitor that makes it any better than any of these other ones for PC use. Not saying the Benq is worse, but the question is: what makes it any better?

Dell 2407FPW - $800 CDN (A03 revision has apparently fixed most problems, superior warranty and return policy)
Acer AL2416WD - $830 CDN (reported input lag by some people)
HP LP2465 - $990 CDN (haven't really looked into this one as I hate HP and would never buy from them, just throwing it on here)
Samsung 244T - $1799 CDN (cheaper in US, reported input lag by some people)

Where the Benq has "claimed" to set itself out from the pack is in its support for HDMI and HD. I saw this being touted as the first "HD" monitor and things to that effect. But if your "perfect" 1080p signal ends up being streched by the monitor, it sort of loses its appeal. I would much rather watch a 1:1 1080i or 720p signal. I saw one funny comment about this monitor to the effect of "all this technology and you will still end up watching low-res porn clips on it." You need to realize that you will most likely not even notice a 1080p signal on a monitor this size. But I know that I would DEFINITELY notice the stretching (as that sort of thing bothers me - personal preference).

For PC use, the Benq looks like a great monitor. For people that want a multi-purpose monitor, the technology just doesn't appear to be there yet - from any manufacturer.
 
As far as your questions go, All those options you can adjust in the OSD. Currently, I have RGB setting on neutral (5 outta 10) Brightness and contrast about halfway up and the whites are most definitely bright. I havent played around with the saturation, hue, sharpness or tint becuase the image is perfect just the way it is. I didnt mess with them, just the color settings (RBG) when playing around with the colors to get it nice. At first , the brightness was all the way up and it was most definitely bright. It can almost light up the dark room if it has a white screen.

As far as the glossy screen, its not a glossy screen. It doesnt have that coating. Now that I think about it, I dont like glossy screens that much. I would prefer the non-glossy.
 
THe image does not get stretched by the monitor, again. It gets played as a 1080p signal.

Dell 2407FPW - $800 CDN (A03 revision has apparently fixed most problems, superior warranty and return policy)
Acer AL2416WD - $830 CDN (reported input lag by some people)
HP LP2465 - $990 CDN (haven't really looked into this one as I hate HP and would never buy from them, just throwing it on here)
Samsung 244T - $1799 CDN (cheaper in US, reported input lag by some people)

Dell - ok so the A03 may fix some of the banding but some people I hear are still reporting banding and the component issue i heard was not fixed....why keep sending your monitor back all the time? Ok so they may pay for it but cmon, why be out of a monitor more than you use it? Happened with me with the viewsonic (theyre tech support is bad) Im sure dells is good but always sending it back due to problems of a cheap build (im sorry to admit for those that dont know but dell doesnt use what you would call higher quality components)

Acer - I heard good things but one downfall - It doesnt have multiple inputs..just DVI and VGA. So if i wanna hook up an external player, I cant. Remind me, is it HDCP ready? Im not sure. I dont think so but I could be wrong.

HP - dont know

Samsung - I hear lots of input lag issues with this.

If your going to spend all this money on a monitor (such as over 700 for the dell and acer, or 800 for the benq), why not get the quality you pay for? Dell is an exception to the rule as that monitor should cost less than 700. Most of that $$ is going to the damn service people, not the build. Like I said before, if your going to spend almost a grand on a monitor, or ANY product, you should get what you pay for and you should damn well get it. I dont want my hard earned money going to waste on a product that uses cheaper components. THats just my opinion the last paragraph. I dont want to start a flame war about dell, or any of these companies, but I just would wish theyre quality control was more superior than it currently is (ESPECIALLY dell). How can this banding issue which is so blatenly obvious (before A03) pass through QC? I just dont see it happening with a better company.

As far as the BenQ goes, awesome, awesome, awesome monitor. Why wait for another model when you dont even know FOR SURE if its going to provide any benefit than to the regular model? So far all I see with this one is damn near perfection!
 
DangerIsGo said:
As far as the BenQ goes, awesome, awesome, awesome monitor. Why wait for another model when you dont even know FOR SURE if its going to provide any benefit than to the regular model? So far all I see with this one is damn near perfection!

I don't disagree - for PC use. I was looking for something that would work with a DVD player, xbox, wii, etc, and the Benq doesn't appear to deliver on this front.

I think I'm just going to suck it up and buy a damned TV AND the Benq and call it quits. :p
 
Of course you can control the resolution on the monitor via your graphics card on your PC. But what most are concerned about is the stretching that would occur with a non-PC device that won't let you control your monitor's resolution. Because the BenQ doesn't enable you to turn on 1:1 pixel scaling, then you will likely always get some stretching.
 
I was pretty set on this FP241W, but this stretching video has got me quite concerned.

I'm hoping we get a definitive answer in the next few days. Dell here in NZ is running a really good special on the 2407WFP for another week, which I'll buy if the FP241W seems to be definitively confirmed as stretching picture.
 
I don't know about anyone else but I am trying to buy a PC MONITOR. Which is what I thought this was. What everyone keeps going on about is that it not a TV MONITOR, it's not supposed to be :confused: If you want to hook up a game console BUY A TV if you look hard enough you can get a 1080p TV for a little more money and then you can hook your PC to it and complain how good it plays DVD's, CONSOLE GAMES and how bad it is at being a PC MONITOR, but at lest you could do it on another thread :eek:
 
Bobby Peru said:
Please don't troll, thanks.

QFT

As far as device stretching, I contradict what I stated before. Without a device (DVDplayer, xbox360, any kind of HD deivce) I cannot be certain. Lets see what this other guy has to say about its stretching. Maybe the monitor is smart enough to recognize external devices and not stretch them. I mean, if its fully 1080p compliant, why would it make it look even worse by stretching it? As far as the PS2 goes, I havent had enough time to play with the options but even if it didnt stretch, the resolution would be small enough that I would have probably wanted it stretched. Lets just wait and see. If for some reason, he is unable to give any news about it by sunday, I will bring my DVD player to school and test it out.
 
DangerIsGo said:
As far as the BenQ goes, awesome, awesome, awesome monitor. Why wait for another model when you dont even know FOR SURE if its going to provide any benefit than to the regular model? So far all I see with this one is damn near perfection!

I agree to DangerIsGo with BenQ FP241W being near perfection. Think about it, the one feature missing is the 1:1 pixel mapping (fixed aspect ratio), can be fixed by software or tuner featured. Don't forget about size 24 inch and price, $800 bucks from Newegg, priced between Dell 2407 and Samsung 244t.

And, you know something, put it this way, if you're buying this monitor for your computer, Yes or No?

If it is a YES, drop your skeptics and order the damn thing!

By the way, I got a surprise for those you miss the link many posts ago:
http://www.it.com.cn/f/diy/069/2/319917_103.htm
*Some hope for skeptics. If you see all the movie screenshots, they're all letterboxed with black bars on the top and bottom, not stretched to full screen.
 
blackseed said:
From my perspective, people have all owned the following monitors and reported no major problems with PC use (gaming, web, pictures, etc). They all have some problems reported by a fraction of their users, but on the whole, they are all decent monitors for PC use. From what I can see, there is no revolutionary technology in this Benq monitor that makes it any better than any of these other ones for PC use. Not saying the Benq is worse, but the question is: what makes it any better?

Dell 2407FPW - $800 CDN (A03 revision has apparently fixed most problems, superior warranty and return policy)
Acer AL2416WD - $830 CDN (reported input lag by some people)
HP LP2465 - $990 CDN (haven't really looked into this one as I hate HP and would never buy from them, just throwing it on here)
Samsung 244T - $1799 CDN (cheaper in US, reported input lag by some people)

Where the Benq has "claimed" to set itself out from the pack is in its support for HDMI and HD. I saw this being touted as the first "HD" monitor and things to that effect. But if your "perfect" 1080p signal ends up being streched by the monitor, it sort of loses its appeal. I would much rather watch a 1:1 1080i or 720p signal. I saw one funny comment about this monitor to the effect of "all this technology and you will still end up watching low-res porn clips on it." You need to realize that you will most likely not even notice a 1080p signal on a monitor this size. But I know that I would DEFINITELY notice the stretching (as that sort of thing bothers me - personal preference).

For PC use, the Benq looks like a great monitor. For people that want a multi-purpose monitor, the technology just doesn't appear to be there yet - from any manufacturer.

You still haven't told us why all the monitors you've mention is better than the Benq?? Since there aren't hardly any reviews for this monitor yet and you're prejudging it?

I really like my Acer Al2423WDR but I think Benq is a better monitor since it is better in limiting ghosting affect and it got build in HDMI.
 
DangerIsGo said:
THe image does not get stretched by the monitor, again. It gets played as a 1080p signal.



Dell - ok so the A03 may fix some of the banding but some people I hear are still reporting banding and the component issue i heard was not fixed....why keep sending your monitor back all the time? Ok so they may pay for it but cmon, why be out of a monitor more than you use it? Happened with me with the viewsonic (theyre tech support is bad) Im sure dells is good but always sending it back due to problems of a cheap build (im sorry to admit for those that dont know but dell doesnt use what you would call higher quality components)

Acer - I heard good things but one downfall - It doesnt have multiple inputs..just DVI and VGA. So if i wanna hook up an external player, I cant. Remind me, is it HDCP ready? Im not sure. I dont think so but I could be wrong.

HP - dont know

Samsung - I hear lots of input lag issues with this.

If your going to spend all this money on a monitor (such as over 700 for the dell and acer, or 800 for the benq), why not get the quality you pay for? Dell is an exception to the rule as that monitor should cost less than 700. Most of that $$ is going to the damn service people, not the build. Like I said before, if your going to spend almost a grand on a monitor, or ANY product, you should get what you pay for and you should damn well get it. I dont want my hard earned money going to waste on a product that uses cheaper components. THats just my opinion the last paragraph. I dont want to start a flame war about dell, or any of these companies, but I just would wish theyre quality control was more superior than it currently is (ESPECIALLY dell). How can this banding issue which is so blatenly obvious (before A03) pass through QC? I just dont see it happening with a better company.

As far as the BenQ goes, awesome, awesome, awesome monitor. Why wait for another model when you dont even know FOR SURE if its going to provide any benefit than to the regular model? So far all I see with this one is damn near perfection!

I agree with you on this. I mean I will never buy anything from Dell. Sure they have great service and return policy but most stuff from Dell are terrible. From computer to Monitor. I've heard too many many people complaining about about the Dell and Samsung 24". That's why I went with the Acer AL2423WDR and love it! But if I'm going to buy a monitor that I want to keep for 3 years than I might as well go with Benq since it has HDMI.
 
blackseed said:
From my perspective, people have all owned the following monitors and reported no major problems with PC use (gaming, web, pictures, etc). They all have some problems reported by a fraction of their users, but on the whole, they are all decent monitors for PC use. From what I can see, there is no revolutionary technology in this Benq monitor that makes it any better than any of these other ones for PC use. Not saying the Benq is worse, but the question is: what makes it any better?

Dell 2407FPW - $800 CDN (A03 revision has apparently fixed most problems, superior warranty and return policy)
Acer AL2416WD - $830 CDN (reported input lag by some people)
HP LP2465 - $990 CDN (haven't really looked into this one as I hate HP and would never buy from them, just throwing it on here)
Samsung 244T - $1799 CDN (cheaper in US, reported input lag by some people)

Where the Benq has "claimed" to set itself out from the pack is in its support for HDMI and HD. I saw this being touted as the first "HD" monitor and things to that effect. But if your "perfect" 1080p signal ends up being streched by the monitor, it sort of loses its appeal. I would much rather watch a 1:1 1080i or 720p signal. I saw one funny comment about this monitor to the effect of "all this technology and you will still end up watching low-res porn clips on it." You need to realize that you will most likely not even notice a 1080p signal on a monitor this size. But I know that I would DEFINITELY notice the stretching (as that sort of thing bothers me - personal preference).

For PC use, the Benq looks like a great monitor. For people that want a multi-purpose monitor, the technology just doesn't appear to be there yet - from any manufacturer.
Still long way from your original claim.
Originally Posted by blackseed
Just a note - if all you are looking for is a big PC monitor and thats it, there are quite a few (arguably) cheaper and better 24" monitors out there than the Benq.
First, I don't see any even (arguably) better monitor on your list. Dell 2407 still has many problems and some were fixed only in desktop mode.
Second, none on your list except the Acer AL2416WD sells today in Canada for less than BenQ FP241W. Today price for Dell 2407FPW is $949.00, not cheaper than BenQ FP241W
All the other models are much older with some older technology and even the sales prices you qoute are not lower than the BenQ FP241W, actualy the Samsung 244T is almost double priced.
The BenQ monitor is hardly available in Canada yet so I guess we have to give it few weeks to see some sales prizes like Dell sometimes has.

So the question still remains the same: Where is the list of "quite a few (arguably) cheaper and better 24" monitors out there than the Benq"???????
 
blackseed said:
... I would DEFINITELY notice the stretching (as that sort of thing bothers me - personal preference).
For PC use, the Benq looks like a great monitor. For people that want a multi-purpose monitor, the technology just doesn't appear to be there yet - from any manufacturer.
This is what manufacturers are trying to fool us :( It's much simplier to do 1:1 mapping than streching 1080p signal to 1200. For stretching you need some powerfull signal processor, which cost a bit. So why they are purposefully streching image and increasing costs ? Because they want you to not only buy 24'' monitor but also a bigger, more expensive TV (e.g. BenQ 37'' :D). They are missing that most allready have this big plasma / LCD TV and just want have some secondary smaller one muli-purpose monitor. Will there be any company smart enough to do this step ?
 
I don't believe any review has the 1:1 settled. 1:1 is for directly connecting your external players (not pc) into the monitor. Seems like some people are confused, it's okay, I just learned it recently.

Dell blows....you know why.....cause I get charged tax!!!! I don't even have a dell store near me, I have a dell stand in my mall. All Dell deals are not not deals when tax is included.

Can't wait to hear some of your guys reviews who already have it. I plan to purchase this or the 244t on monday.
 
menace2society said:
I don't know about anyone else but I am trying to buy a PC MONITOR. Which is what I thought this was. What everyone keeps going on about is that it not a TV MONITOR, it's not supposed to be :confused: If you want to hook up a game console BUY A TV if you look hard enough you can get a 1080p TV for a little more money and then you can hook your PC to it and complain how good it plays DVD's, CONSOLE GAMES and how bad it is at being a PC MONITOR, but at lest you could do it on another thread :eek:
Look, you have to be aware that BenQ FP241W probably belongs to the "hybrid" LCD TV/monitor category. It's advertised as HD/video monitor and it does have HDMI port (if anyone fancy this, although I think that HDMI switch is probably better option). In essence, we are talking also about the 1080p LCD TV here and I guess that because some people probably can't afford the properly sized LCD TV (additionally), they will use the BenQ as the stop gap.

I really don't see why is the problem that people comment the video features as this is part of the monitor spec. Comment that they have to open another thread is rather rude. If you want to save $100 and have PC MONITOR, you may consider the Acer AL2423W. It's using exactly the same panel as FP241W but there is no HDMI and according to early user reports it's very nice panel. People have to be aware that they are paying price premium because of the inclusion of the HDMI port and if they want just PC monitor it's probably better that they look somewhere else.
 
DangerIsGo said:
Gaming: Definitely the highlight of this monitor. Its awesome. THeres not really much more to say about it. No ghosting, no noticible signs of input lag, response time is great (even though 16ms could be better) it hasnt made any kind of affect on a fast paced multiplayer in quake 4. (Acutlaly i performed better with this monitor against my friend than w/ my 17"..i dont know if thats cuase i was getting better/he was sucking or becuase of the monitors goodness :p)
It does seems that it's very nice gaming panel, according to your reports, and more more importantly you had a play with the fast paced games also. We may have one interesting point here ... do we (you) really need BFI, if the gaming (including FPS) is already enjoyable with this model ? We still don't have reports about the BFI "Z" version in practice, of course, and it's early to tell but I guess that some people will raise the question if price premium for BFI version is really worth it ?! especially because I think that afterglow is not really THAT much of the problem nowadays.

We still need few more reports, but it may happen that FP241W is very nice 24" gaming panel option, compared what we have now in 24" sector and that includes almost always S-PVA panel look-alikes.
 
bugeyes said:
In FPS games... your enemy comes round a corner... he sees you before you see him (because of display-lag)bang bang your dead he isn't.... you say to yourself gee I suck today.... NO PROBLEM...lol

LOL, you think 50 ms will make that big of a difference? I'm sure you also only play at LANs, because, after all, dealing with an 80-100 ms ping is too much for you as well, I'm sure.
 
menace2society, if it is purely meant to be a PC MONITOR, then why does it have composite, svideo, component, and HDMI inputs in addition to VGA/DVI? You don't know what you're talking about.

If there's enough (justifiable) fuss kicked up about the lack of scaling options then I can see BenQ revising the monitor and adding them. It's stupid, pure and simple, for such a standard feature to be absent on a premium monitor like this.
 
Daggah said:
LOL, you think 50 ms will make that big of a difference? I'm sure you also only play at LANs, because, after all, dealing with an 80-100 ms ping is too much for you as well, I'm sure.


50ms is an eternity in fast paced FPS. You realy need "kill cam" to see what an advantage 20ms is..... COD is a good example, after you get killed you get a replay of your death through the eyes of your killer....and many times I was sure that I had fired first, but the replay clearly shows who did!


So if your addicted to seeing your name at the top of the kill-list at the end of each map then there's nothing that beats a good connection and a CRT!
 
I know exactly what I'm talking about. This is first and for most a PC monitor period. Not the jack of all trades everyone is hoping for. But hopefully a master at computer display, that should be the focus. If you are commenting on how well it displays DVDs played on your computer or how well is plays BF2 I understand because that's what its designed to do. Its kind of hard for me to imagine that when Benq was designing this monitor they were thinking about xbox 360 or PS3. The "Full HD" support is more about Vista then anything else, the HDMI port is more marketing then true purpose. To me, all this speculation is distracting, I'm more interested in how good it is at being a monitor as opposed to how bad it is at being a TV.
 
Originally Posted by Daggah
If they don't perceive the lag then how is it a "problem?"
bugeyes said:
In FPS games... your enemy comes round a corner... he sees you before you see him (because of display-lag)bang bang your dead he isn't.... you say to yourself gee I suck today.... NO PROBLEM...lol
If this is true, then you're right. That would be a problem.
 
menace2society said:
The "Full HD" support is more about Vista then anything else, the HDMI port is more marketing then true purpose.
That's not true. For Vista any monitor with HDCP and at least 1920x1080 resolution will have "Full HD" support. BenQ advertise this monitor as Full HD 1080p support, which means it accept 1080p signal input from diffrent devices, not only computer graphics. From benq site: "the FP241W features complete HD support, so you can enjoy the most dazzlingly video possible. Experience lifelike video with all your new generation electronics, such as the latest game consoles and HD DVD players."
It was designed with xbox 360 or PS3 in mind ;) So it's really important if correct aspect ratio is displayed. If it's not, then we can called this monitor "FAKE HD support".
Samsung 244T or Dell 2407FPW support full HD as computer monitor, but doesn't support 1080p input signal.

Regards
 
menace2society said:
I don't know about anyone else but I am trying to buy a PC MONITOR. Which is what I thought this was. What everyone keeps going on about is that it not a TV MONITOR, it's not supposed to be :confused: If you want to hook up a game console BUY A TV if you look hard enough you can get a 1080p TV for a little more money and then you can hook your PC to it and complain how good it plays DVD's, CONSOLE GAMES and how bad it is at being a PC MONITOR, but at lest you could do it on another thread :eek:
Dont be an arse. Its obvious a lot of a us are interested in this monitor as a dual purpose device, and are really interested in its HDTV capabilities independent of a PC.

If you want you want, you're welcome to go start new thread entirely dedicated to its use as just a PC monitor.
 
I've been watching this thread since the beginning, and still have a couple of unanswered questions. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction.

First, is there any significant difference between the monitors being discussed in this thread and actual tv's. What else is there beside resolution, inputs, response time and aspect ratio that sets a tv apart from a monitor. Obviously monitors are ready to be connected to pc's, but if I connect a dvd player to one of these displays, is there any other reason besides the ones mentioned that it will provide a poorer tv watching experience that a lcd tv.

Secondly, when exactly will this pixel mapping issue (if it is an issue) show up. Will it be anytime a standalone component is connected to the monitor, or only when a 1080p signal is being sent. Will it stretch with a simple vga connection. (I know this is a silly question, but I am just not getting it) :confused:

Lastly, I can't remember... more later if I remember

Thanks
 
Has anyone proved it doesn,t support "Full FD"? Then the rest is speculation. How about just focusing on the facts. Dangerisgo said" Awesome, awesome, awesome. There is absolutely no ghosting, lag, or banding whatsoever in quake 4". thats a fact! "I suppose all inputs are stretched to fill?, HDMI/DVI/components and other analog inputs.. no matter the resolution... are stretched to 1920x1200 pixels" is speculation. No matter how many times you ask, until someone proves or disproves what it does with other signals is all speculation. Why waste time guessing
 
menace2society said:
Has anyone proved it doesn,t support "Full FD"?
No, but that is exactly what we're trying to find out. I'm waiting anxiously for feed back from owners that have tried it with DVD players, Xbox360's, HD-DVD players, BluRay players etc. I have no doubt the PC side of it is good, so I'm not so worried about that aspect.

Then the rest is speculation. How about just focusing on the facts. Dangerisgo said" Awesome, awesome, awesome. There is absolutely no ghosting, lag, or banding whatsoever in quake 4". thats a fact! "I suppose all inputs are stretched to fill?, HDMI/DVI/components and other analog inputs.. no matter the resolution... are stretched to 1920x1200 pixels" is speculation.
You cant blame people for talking about the little information we have on this aspect of the monitor, As much as I dont want it to be true, until proven otherwise, I have to believe what has been written the very few reviews available to us. I'm not talking about Dangerisgo loose comments since he has clearly stated he cant test this stuff, but rather the comments by trustedreviews reviewer etc.
 
paviko said:
That's not true. For Vista any monitor with HDCP and at least 1920x1080 resolution will have "Full HD" support. BenQ advertise this monitor as Full HD 1080p support, which means it accept 1080p signal input from diffrent devices, not only computer graphics. From benq site: "the FP241W features complete HD support, so you can enjoy the most dazzlingly video possible. Experience lifelike video with all your new generation electronics, such as the latest game consoles and HD DVD players."
It was designed with xbox 360 or PS3 in mind ;) So it's really important if correct aspect ratio is displayed. If it's not, then we can called this monitor "FAKE HD support".
Samsung 244T or Dell 2407FPW support full HD as computer monitor, but doesn't support 1080p input signal.

Regards

Sorry, I'm getting confused. I thought someone stated that you can connect HD devices with a DVI adapter into the DVI slot of the Samsung so it will accept 1080p signals. Or connect with many devices using a hub.
 
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