PS3 and XBOX360 on 17" LCD

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Ray2097

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I have sony hx73b, it is perfect for my needs....it has dvi, so i was wondering how will ps3 and xbox 360 games look on it?

it's native resolution is 1280*1024 ...how will HD content look like on it?
there is no chance to play anything in native resolution, right?

i'll be pretty happy with 720P, i know my monitor can do it, but how it will look like.... will it be something like scaled resolutions now or what?

and generally, there is no way to play anything in native resolution on ANY pc lcd right now....am i wrong? does it have big impact on image quality like now when i play in 1024*768, for example?

please give me some advice....

of course i'll buy new monitor in some time, but for now this is it....

thanx...you are great guys :)
 
i doubt the new ps3/xbox will have a dvi connection. it will most likely have composite/s-video/component. and since your monitor doesn't support any of those connections, you will need some type of converter. anything less than component will look like shit on a lcd.
 
...anything less than component will look like shit on an lcd, given the resolution differences at s-video and composite...
 
Both systems will have HDMI and you can get an HDMI to DVI cable. Both systems will look excellent on your DVI LCD in 720p mode as long as your monitor supports 1280x720.

Alot of 17" LCDs dont because they are native 1280x1024 and the monitor driver doesnt specify a 1280x720 resolution. At least my Samsung 172x will not run at 1280x720 in fullscreen DVI mode. My monitor only supports 800x600, 1024x768, and 1280x1024 (native).

This is why i would recommend getting a monitor that is native 1280x720 or native 1920x1080 if you want to play these consoles in all their glory.

I am not even sure a 1920x1200 DVI LCD would work in fullscreen 1920x1080 DVI mode with one of these machines. You might have to get an HDTV that is native 1920x1080.

I think I will stick with computers....heh ;)
 
but i can't see any monitors with native resolution 1280x720 or 1920x1080 .....
 
I've not read anywhere that the XB360 will have HDMI ports, though it's definitely possible. The only way to get an LCD with 720P native (or thereabouts) is to buy an LCD TV (that doesn't support 1080p). Otherwise, you could get, for example, a Dell 2005FPW or 2405FPW, which both have wide aspects and so will display 720P (1280x720) no problem, though interpolated. I've got the latter and I think it looks great. The 2405 also supports component.

Anybody got any experience of DVI splitters?
 
JonDo[H] said:
I've not read anywhere that the XB360 will have HDMI ports, though it's definitely possible. The only way to get an LCD with 720P native (or thereabouts) is to buy an LCD TV (that doesn't support 1080p). Otherwise, you could get, for example, a Dell 2005FPW or 2405FPW, which both have wide aspects and so will display 720P (1280x720) no problem, though interpolated. I've got the latter and I think it looks great. The 2405 also supports component.

Anybody got any experience of DVI splitters?
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I don't think the Dell 2405fpw will be able to scale 1920x1080 (or any 16:9 aspect ratio) properly via DVI. Just add it as a custom resolution in Windows and select it to see what happens.. On the off chance it somehow does work, or the next gen consoles have scalers for 16:10 monitors, how would you get sound from an HDMI to DVI converter? I'm just glad this monitor has component input, 720p scales properly but 480p doesn't when in 16:9 mode. Does component have enough bandwitch for 1080p mode?
 
Couldn't the 2405 just run at 1920x1200 and have 120px worth of black bars for 1080p content?
 
ZeroBullet said:
Couldn't the 2405 just run at 1920x1200 and have 120px worth of black bars for 1080p content?
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That's what it should do but via DVI (at least from PC) it confuses 1920x1080 for 1920x1200 so the image is stretched over the entire screen.
 
peacetilence said:
That's what it should do but via DVI (at least from PC) it confuses 1920x1080 for 1920x1200 so the image is stretched over the entire screen.
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There should be an option in your video card drivers to output it with black bars instead I believe this is your video card adapting it to a res your monitor can handle, either by stretching or not. Not the monitor itself resizing your image.
 
peacetilence said:
That's what it should do but via DVI (at least from PC) it confuses 1920x1080 for 1920x1200 so the image is stretched over the entire screen.
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Phew, fortunately a bit of vertical stretch doesn't bother me in the slightest! :)
 
JonDo[H] said:
Phew, fortunately a bit of vertical stretch doesn't bother me in the slightest! :)
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For games it's ok for the most part, but if you're playing a game in 16:9 that switches between 720p and 480p the 480p image becomes squished.
For DVD's I can't stand it but unless you have a macrovision free DVD player than can scale to either 720p or 1080p you're effed. I guess there are some external resolution scalers but they cost more than I paid for the monitor... I think the easiest thing would be to buy a tuner card for the pc and work it all out that way...
 
The_Engineer said:
There should be an option in your video card drivers to output it with black bars instead I believe this is your video card adapting it to a res your monitor can handle, either by stretching or not. Not the monitor itself resizing your image.
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Yes your video card can do this. One of nVIDIA's setting is called "Centered Output". Only one problem I have found is that this only works with supported resolutions of your monitor.

For instance, I set my monitor to 1280x1024 (native). If a fullscreen app is running at 1024x768, I will have a black border around my entire screen with the small 1024x768 image in the center - achieving 1:1 pixel for pixel ratio. But if an app tries to use a resolution not supported by my monitor (ie 1280x720) then the app will usually crash.

But hooking a PS3 or XBOX360 to the monitor has nothing to do with your PC's video card...hence the reason why I dont think it can be done via a digital HDMI to DVI connection method. Unless of course these two consoles will let you choose a resolution like 1920x1200 and then display black bars similiar to "Centered Output" mode. Even then, I bet your monitor would still have to support the resolution (in digital mode). I dont know of any 1920x1200 or 1280x1024 monitors that support (in DVI) 1920x1080 and 1280x720. Best bet is to find a monitor with these resolutions natively. Good luck with that though.

Getting back to PCs, windowed apps can display these resolutions just fine. Apps like Window Media Player, etc.
 
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