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release date for Doom III?
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Torgo
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Hype started by players and people speculating on message boards. We only have ourselves to blame.
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it will come out the day you die just to piss you off
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Yes, for Doom3. The keynote speech with John Carmack was in January 2001 with Steve and John showing off the new GeForce 3 with the G4 computer. What were they showing? Quake 3 Arena. Even then, it was showing off the Apple platform and it's capabilities rather than the game itself.
That aside, yes game marketing departments get out of hand sometimes, but it's the gamers themselves that do the vast, vast majority of it.
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=16891
http://www.doom3world.org/index.php...=1&gallery_id=1&dir2=doom3/doom3macworld2001/
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2001/02/22.12.shtml
http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ArticleID=2175
Yep, you're right... it was Quake 3. *cough*
You could at least check your facts before you tell me I'm wrong. Google is your friend.
Was the q3a a typo? If so, all is good. I understand brainfarts.
It has seemed to me though that a lot of the best sellers have been the games with the biggest marketing campaigns. Think of the dozens of kick ass games that have sold terribly. Then think of the crap that has had mad sales.
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http://www.doom3world.org/index.php...=1&gallery_id=1&dir2=doom3/doom3macworld2001/
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2001/02/22.12.shtml
http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ArticleID=2175
Yep, you're right... it was Quake 3. *cough*
You could at least check your facts before you tell me I'm wrong. Google is your friend.
Was the q3a a typo? If so, all is good. I understand brainfarts.
It has seemed to me though that a lot of the best sellers have been the games with the biggest marketing campaigns. Think of the dozens of kick ass games that have sold terribly. Then think of the crap that has had mad sales.
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Torgo
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Hang on... Google is my friend. Only the links I checked glossed over the game demo and focused on the card and G4.
Google Search
Okay, this used the terms macworld, John Carmack and Steve Jobs. That should grab what we need right? First link goes to Apple.com. You'd think they'd have everything you need. Nope. No mention of the game.
Second link takes you to Carmack talking about Quake 3 Arena. No mention of the demo still. Third link nothing. Fifth link nothing still. Link going to Mac Central mentions the demo, but not the game. It's all about GeForce 3 info.
I checked until I hit the CDMag which mentioned Quake 3 Arena. That seemed to jive from what I remember from when I had lunch with Graeme and Jim over at id back in October 2000. They only had the stick figures running around a blank level and had colored lights. They were finishing up the Q3A packs which were immediately to be released. I put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.
Yep, I was wrong. I admit that. However, searching for this bit of info just strengthens my belief that the hype didn't start at MacWorld. If the first fiveteen or so links don't even mention the name of the game and instead the hardware... that isn't hype. If you remember the show (and I've taken time to review it more carefully thanks to my snafu) Carmack did the demonstration in the middle of the show only as part of the GeForce 3 demonstration. In this link that shows a timeline of the event, the Doom 3 showing was a small part of the show and they moved on. (Hey, it says they used Maya to animate everything for the demo. That explains my confusion from my visit to id.)
It was only later on message boards and fan sites that everyone went to C|Net to get the video for the demo. I don't recall Carmack or id or Activision hyping it at all. At that particular event, it was all about hardware.
Google Search
Okay, this used the terms macworld, John Carmack and Steve Jobs. That should grab what we need right? First link goes to Apple.com. You'd think they'd have everything you need. Nope. No mention of the game.
Second link takes you to Carmack talking about Quake 3 Arena. No mention of the demo still. Third link nothing. Fifth link nothing still. Link going to Mac Central mentions the demo, but not the game. It's all about GeForce 3 info.
I checked until I hit the CDMag which mentioned Quake 3 Arena. That seemed to jive from what I remember from when I had lunch with Graeme and Jim over at id back in October 2000. They only had the stick figures running around a blank level and had colored lights. They were finishing up the Q3A packs which were immediately to be released. I put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.
Yep, I was wrong. I admit that. However, searching for this bit of info just strengthens my belief that the hype didn't start at MacWorld. If the first fiveteen or so links don't even mention the name of the game and instead the hardware... that isn't hype. If you remember the show (and I've taken time to review it more carefully thanks to my snafu) Carmack did the demonstration in the middle of the show only as part of the GeForce 3 demonstration. In this link that shows a timeline of the event, the Doom 3 showing was a small part of the show and they moved on. (Hey, it says they used Maya to animate everything for the demo. That explains my confusion from my visit to id.)
It was only later on message boards and fan sites that everyone went to C|Net to get the video for the demo. I don't recall Carmack or id or Activision hyping it at all. At that particular event, it was all about hardware.
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gee ..I cant wait until Doom IV ...!
i think about the worst Doom III could turn out is best game of the decade. i got to play Doom III multiplayer at Quakecon 2003, and the graphics were incredible, even though sometimes it ran a bit slow using the latest hardware, and some that wasn't released at the time, it ran ok. no offense to the Nvidia fans, but i think if they had been using ATI Radeon 9800 Pro's, it would have run faster.