Samsung 2333T

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How is it? I'm considering getting 2 of these to go with my U2311H ($70 cheaper.)

They have 4,000:1 contrast, it's C-PVA.

What should I know about it? I hear the colors are excellent compared to TN??

Does anyone know if it has bad input delay, like my 40" Samsung TV?
 
Somewhat decent review here. You can see it ghosts badly. The monitor doesn't use any overdrive.
 
The text clarity - WOW. Are most TN that clear? The only thing that scared me is the "hum." i cant stand noise.
 
I strongly recommend you try it (get it from a place with a good return policy). The only issue is the color streaking which only occurs with certain transitions, but can be quite bad depending on the content (worst during movies on peoples faces depending on the scene).

This is what C-PVA response time looks like taken from a camera with a high shutter speed. This is what a perfect 60z TN monitor will look like. These pictures can't show color streaking, which may or may not be something you notice, or won't about care because the monitor looks amzing.

If you allready like your U2311H though you might as well have 3 (eyefinity portrait mode is ideal over landscape). The 2333t will look way better (if the color presets are accurate), but the dell is still faster.
 
My concern was 2 things:

The article show the text clarity. How does that clarity compare to a TN?

The hum - does anyone know if it's true? Will it make audible noise at viewing distance?

Side note, why would this look much better than the DELL? I thought IPS was the best ?
 
Most TN panels and the U2311H use the "medium," anti glare coating, text will appear clearest on the C-PVA panels.

The hum is a fault of the particular unit, if you get one that hums take it back. I have a variant of the 2333T and it does not hum, again this is most likely a fault of the individual unit.

It will look way better than the dell due to 4x the contrast ratio. There is no best technology, each have there own draw backs.

Point is if you are planning on going eyefinity it is very silly to not have 3x U2311H displays. The Samsung C-PVA panels typically have around 7ms of input lag (1 frame=16.7ms) because there is no overdrive, hence the color streaking.
 
Clearer text.. nice.

I was considering using the U23 in the middle, for games. The side monitors don't matter a whole lot as far as streaking, do they? Those are your peripherals. . . I've never used eyefinity, so set me straight if I need to be.
 
I thought your intention was to go with eyefinity. If not just have one extra monitor, don't need 2, kinda overkill.

I personally don't like eyefinity. I have 1 monitor for text/movies (C-PVA) and a TN for gaming. 3 is over kill if you aren't planning on going portrait mode. Dual monitor display is good enough, each display has its strengths and shines in its areas of use. Use the Dell for gaming and movies with fast motion and the Samsung for text and other movies.
 
From my understanding there are 3 levels of coating

Light-C-PVA and a few TN panels (Acer P236H), possibly some Eizo S-PVA

Medium-Most TN's, Dell U2311H (as described by many [H] users compared to the U2410

Heavy-Dell U2410+, Fujitsu IPS, HP IPS and NEC IPS, Eizo IPS (?).

Color Vibrancy=Inaccurate or oversatured (wide gamut)/unatural images=fail.

or achieved naturally with a Glossy panel

Even TN panels are moving away from using ridiculous oversaturation and offer a "natural," image now. I think most people would agree this is a good thing.

LG's IPS panels have awful quality control, by now I think most people accept the risks when purchasing a unit, just like they do with TN panels when it comes to screen uniformity. The positive side is Dell/HP/NEC offer great customer service/exchange services.
 
I already have 4 monitors. I really like having at least 3.

But on topic: no. I DO plan to use eyefinity.... But how important is streaking if only the Side monitors are CPVA, and the middle is E-IPS, which has good response etc?

Also, how do you like the the CPVA for text, compared to TN? :) (I have the VW266H if you're familiar with it, and can compare.)

*Edit* I just slid my finger against my Dell and my Asus.. Wow, the dell is much more harsh..
 
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I found these on sale Today only, so I'm hoping to decide before the sale ends. ;)
 
The streaking depends on you! The only way you will get a concrete awsner is by trying one yourself.

Sense you do plan on Eyefinity, I still recommend going 3x Dells for portrait mode.

My LG has the "Meduium," coating and the C-PVA is "Light," whites are less grainy/sparkly, so obviously I prefer the C-PVA panel, which still looses out to my other Glossy TN which produces the clearest sparkle free image for text.

It is possible that the Asus has the "Light," coating. Look at MS word or a white image on it and the Dell, if you prefer the Asus for text you will like the Samsung.

And PLEASE stop making new threads.
 
Because most of the threads you have made allready have existing large dedicated threads with the awnsers you seek. That is why we have the search button.
 
I used it for both this thread, and the one about CCFL. . . I didn't find what I need in either case, which I even said in the other thread.

I'm not being blatantly obnoxious, maybe I just suck with search. ;)
 
From the manual:
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Well, Fean.. I have a hard time believing a C-PVA with "fastest" will actually fix the motion blur - but if it does, I may replace my Dell with a third one. ;) The text on this dell is .. not as easy to read, for sure, as my asus.
 
icor1031 said:
Well, Fean.. I have a hard time believing a C-PVA with "fastest" will actually fix the motion blur - but if it does, I may replace my Dell with a third one. ;) The text on this dell is .. not as easy to read, for sure, as my asus.
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I'm just throwing that out there. I'm not an LCD expert. I'm looking to replace my CRT that finally died.
 
Nah.
2333T is normally 200.
U2311H is 280.

I just got lucky and bought the 2333T on sale today for $170 FS.
 
Well, when my 2 new monitors get here, I assume it's going to be much easier to read on them. But I have to use the U2311H as the center screen because of motion blur on my new c-pva.

So, I'm going to try to design a new desk that will let me simply move my keyboard/mouse over a little bit and sit in front of my U23 when I want to game. This may be harder than I realize, we'll see how it goes.

I wish the AG wasn't so harsh, that's for sure. . . when I first bought my U23, I was expecting it to appear sharper because of the higher PPI... Boy was I wrong. . . Maybe it's a setting I have wrong, I don't know.
 
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I got the 2333t for my wife's PC a couple weeks ago when it was <$160 shipped from NewEgg. It was replacing a 2 year old Hannspree 23" TN model. My impressions: WOW. Colors and black levels deep and vibrant, and absolutely sharp as a tack. Had to seriously crank the brightness down (which is pretty typical). Spent a few hours watching movies on the thing as well as typical surfing/spreadsheet type stuff and I have to say it's just really really sweet seeing how much monitor I got for a measly $160. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. Now, I didn't get a chance to try any gaming on it - FPS or anything - because my wife's machine is an old Pentium 4 Northwood 3GHz with an old vanilla nVidia 6800 card in it - but I wasn't buying it for that purpose either so it wasn't a priority. But just in the uses I put it to - including some fast action movie scenes - I didn't see any ghosting or anything. So about the only thing I could tell you about would be what kind of input lag this thing's got. Oh, one other note - the on-screen menus are nice too because they put off to the side of the dialog boxes a "key" as to which buttons do what - since the buttons are on the side of the monitor where you can't see them (and even if you could they're not labelled very well) this is a very nice feature.
 
Hopefully it is fast, Kling.. and I'd probably buy a 3rd. Unforunately, that means I have to let me U23 sit and do nothing.
 
it's down to this or the EA232WMi for a hundred bucks more unless the dell 23 inch drops down to the 200 dollar price point in the next day... after reading this thread I'm leaning towards this monitor or even 2 of em.. better for text with good blacks.. don't care about gaming. Will be using in a dark bedroom with windows covered as I work nights off and on, so the good blacks, even colors with no odd tinting and good price seem to be a benefit. May have to shrug off the IPS is best crowd here on this one... I game with my 60 inch LCD and that will not change, this will see occasional video use (mostly blurry SD stuff) along with web surfing some porn viewing and occasional stock research and charting.
 
Looks nice but the thing keeping me away is the stand. Looks to be the same stand as on my 2343BWX. I like how the base turns about 270* but I really miss having a monitor with height and pivot adjustments.
 
ordered one. Don't feel like waiting for the IPS panels of the 23 inch size to go on sale at this price point. Since it's cheap, it will allow me to wait for Dell to improve their 27 inch 1440p monitors (removing or modifying the nasty anti-glare plastic) and then I'll snag one of them on sale.
 
if you have a Frys or a Microcenter near you can see this monitor in person. I believe Frys has it for $159 and MC has it for $149
 
It arrived today.

Looks very good.

Unfortunately, I can't hook up both this and my dell at the same time until my new video gets here, in 2 days.

Oh yeah,
These still ghost just like my *VA TV - Terrible.
 
someone knows if the 2333t can display either 24hz or 48hz or 72hz?
i'm looking for a monitor that's good for watching movies
 
Yes, it can do 72 Hz without skipping frames.

You'll need to add a custom resolution with custom timing parameters to fit within DVI bandwidth:

Horizontal Active: 1920
Horizontal Front Porch: 30
Horizontal Sync Width: 40
Horizontal Back Porch: 45
Horizontal Total: 2035
Horizontal Sync: +

Vertical Active: 1080
Vertical Front Porch: 3
Vertical Sync Width: 4
Vertical Back Porch: 5
Vertical Total: 1092
Vertical Sync: +
 
ToastyX said:
Yes, it can do 72 Hz without skipping frames.

You'll need to add a custom resolution with custom timing parameters to fit within DVI bandwidth:

Horizontal Active: 1920
Horizontal Front Porch: 30
Horizontal Sync Width: 40
Horizontal Back Porch: 45
Horizontal Total: 2035
Horizontal Sync: +

Vertical Active: 1080
Vertical Front Porch: 3
Vertical Sync Width: 4
Vertical Back Porch: 5
Vertical Total: 1092
Vertical Sync: +
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sounds good :)
but did you test this on an ati?
i seem to have no "h/v back porch" setting on my nvidia
 
The back porch is included in the total, so that's fine. The options will depend on the software used, so I just included all the information.
 
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