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wow you are confused....the A3 revision xbitlabs is mentioning is ONLY in reference to the G92 not the G94. the G94 is already a 9600 series gpu and it appears that the A3 revision of G92 will be in the 9800 cards.I would love for some 9600 GT owner, to keep his eyes open for an A3, then report back!!
I think you are correct. Between the new compression tech on the BUS, and the secret features unlocked in the A3 revision, we might have a runner in the 9800 GTX...
the 8800gt/gts DONT have more ROPs and they actually have less than the 8800gts/gtx. they have more TMUs than the 8800gts/gtx cards though.
Are you referring to the AA compression that exists within the G92? Or something else. Because the 9600GT, 8800GT and 8800GTS all use the same compression technology. Which is usually 3-5% faster than G80 clock per clock/pipe per pipe/unit per per unit. But in some rare cases can be seen up close to 10% and up. ((though this is a minority and I believe the crysis performance loss is actually relative to the memory drop of going down to 256 bit bandwith under the test conditions observed))
Other than that there is nothing new "compression" wise that doesnt already exist in the current G92 cards. This is only new compared to G80 type cards.
As I said before. There is no new compression technology that doesnt already exist in the G92. ((This is from Nvidia's mouth not mine)). They simply didnt make a big fuss over it when the 8800GT/GTS were announced. ((Though it was mentioned but seemingly overlooked by most editors for some reason)) The graph people seem to be thinking of is this one below. Which was shown to editors and other members of the press before the launch of the 9600GT comparing a plain jane G80 core with ROPS/Shader/memory bandwith units disabled. But this compression technology also exists on the G92 hardware.
Chris
ok please tell me that you know that the A3 xbitlabs was referring to will be a revision of the G92. the 9600gt uses G94.FYI - I did find a picture of the A1 on the chip of the 9600 GT.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/02/21/g94_nvidia_geforce_9600_gt_graphics_card/1
Now we need an A3 picture!
the 9800gtx still seems to be A2 if this is trustworthy http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=241354Thanks... I was!
So the 9800 GX2, and 9800 GTX will be the first A3 revision of G92 to hit the streets.
NVidia probably wants to differentiate their GX2 from their GTX cards by offering the latter with 'only' half the amount of memory. However, I agree that the card should come with 768MB or 1GB of memory and the GX2 should have even more. Then the problem arises with pricing since the more memory on a given card, the more expensive it will need to be to turn a profit. 2008 won't be a repeat of 2007. There's competition now and pricing is all important to maintain a competitive edge.
-- VR Zone 9800 GTX --------------------------------------------------------- Nordic 9800 GTX (G92-420 Chip)
Core= 673MHz -------------------------------------------------------------------- Core= No more than 675MHz
Shaders= 1683MHz ------------------------------------------------------------- Shaders= 1688MHz
Memory= ????MHz 512MB GDDR3 (136-pin BGA) ----------------- Memory= 1100MHz 512MB GDDR3 (2200MHz DDR)
256-BIT BUS ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 256-BIT BUS
Two DVI-I and one DHTV-out
Two SLI Connectors
Two 6-Pin PCIe Power Connectors
CoolerMaster TM67 Cooler ----- (I believe it's this one: http://en.expreview.com/?p=276)
Total Board Power= 168W.
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Trying to keep all of nVidia's cards straight in my head, this is what I think is currently correct:
D8M: Eighth generation Mainstream:, previously named G98 (The old 8 series cards, 90nm processor design.) (Have been out for over a year now.)
D8M: The odd bird - (GeForce 8800 GTS SSC, 112 stream processors, 90nm processor design.) Memory listed as (320MB or 640MB). (Out now)
D8M: (The New 8400 GS, 65nm processor design, Pure Video 3 engine, ment to replace previous 90nm versions of the G98 Mainstream cards.) (Out now)
Eighth generation Performance:
D8P: (The New 9600 GT 512MB, G94 GPU, 64 stream processors, 65nm processor design.) (Out now)
D8P: (The New 8800 GT 512MB, G92 GPU, 112 stream processors, 65nm processor design.) (Out now)
D8P: (The New 8800 GTS 512MB, G92 GPU, 128 stream processors, 65nm processor design.) (Out now)
Note: All three D8P GPUs share the same architecture and transistor improvements over the older G80 GPU's. http://hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzAzMjksLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=
Eighth generation Enthusiasts:
D8E: (The New 9800 GTX 512MB, G92 GPU, 128 stream processors, 65nm processor design.) (Out soon...)
D8E: (The New 9800 GX2 512MB x 2, (2)G92 GPU's, 256 stream processors total, 65nm processor design, 1GB frame buffer, two PCB's.) (Out any day.)
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That is what you get for trying to do a thoughtful post, and helping your GPU hunting brothers out some...
Higher mem-clocks + second SLI-connector requires these..
