What are your IT job hours?

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Current Job
Title: Sr. Integration Engineer / Systems Administrator
Office Hours: 7:00 AM - 4:00 PM + on call every thrid week
My Hours: 6:30 AM - 345 PM at least three nights a week on call. Average vacation day I have seven calls before noon.
Lunch Length: 1 Hour (only use it about twice a week)
Compensation: Salary + benefits (free - full medical/dental)

New Job (Starting after Memorial day)
Title: Sr. Analyst
Office Hours: start 5:00 - 9:00 AM - end 2:00 - 6:00 PM + on call 1 in 8 weeks
My Hours: Not really sure yet.
Lunch Length: 1 Hour
Compensation: Salary
(Best Buy and Sports Authority in retail space below office... so much for my raise)
 
Title: Jr. Network Administrator
Hours: 8AM-5PM + On-Call Phone rotation (On Call one week out of every four). During Projects, the work day typically turns into 8AM-8PM :(
Lunch: 1 Hour. But I usually eat on site. Which means I take 15 to eat, then get back to work.
Compensation: Salary, Great Benefits Package.
 
Title: Network Administrator
Hours: 700am-130pm (I love the school schedule) On call 24/7, no on call benefit.
Lunch: None
Compensation: Salary, Benefits (Medical/Dental)

Looking for a 2nd full time job from 2pm on.
 
Title = Linux Administrator
Hours = 8am - 5pm + On call 24 hours a day via Nextel POS phone.
Lunch = 1 hour
Daily activities = Showing people how to enable and disable their caps lock button and searching for MPEG and MP3 files on our share servers.
 
Title: Director of IT (Head of a one-man IT shop) for a C-Store chain
Hours: 8am-5pm, and like someone else so eloquently said, Perma-call (24x7x365)
Lunch: ~1hour, no real set times.
Compensation: Salary, no specific on-call benefit.
 
Title: Systems Administrator
Hours: 8:00am-5:00pm.
Lunch: an hour
Compensation: Salary, Benefits (Medical/Dental)

Work for a school as a one man IT dept. What it lacks in typical salary (compared to corporate counterparts) it makes up for (almost) with relaxed hours, no on call work and loads of holidays.
 
msny said:
Many salried workers in IT tend to have better overall compensation packages then hourly and they can negotiate that. Also, since my position is project driven, hourly work does not mean much. Should I get my programming assignments done before it's due date I'm not under any time pressure to start another. Still, my office hours are 8 - 5 to satisy the old timer management staff, so we show up to make an appearance.

So being stricly hourly by the clock for me anyways, would not be so good a thing. In this modern day and age it's also very old
fashion.
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I don't care about that, I just want money.
 
Title: IT
Hours: 9am-6pm on-call
Lunch: 1-hour
Compensation: Salary, NO Benefits
 
Title: Technology Specialist
Hours: 8AM-5PM Monday-Friday (I sometimes give workshops on Saturdays)
Lunch: 1 hour
Compensation: Hourly wage, Medical and Dental (paid by for deductions from pay)

The job is part of a Title V grant. While I am helpful to the local tech support, I essentially do a one man show for my own stuff. Sometimes I have a mind boggling amount of work to do, and other times I go out and find new things to do. Occasionally interesting, and occasionally tedious.

I need to find a new job, with more money and job satisfaction.
 
Title: Assistant Manager of Academic Technology Operations
Hours: 9-5 M-F (this is just posted schedule...i very rarely adhere to it)
Lunch: 1hr or less depending on work load
Compensation: Hourly

Work for a University.
 
Title: Computer technician
Hours: 8:15am-4.36pm.
Lunch: an hour lunch, 1/2 hour play lunch :)
Compensation: Salary, 6 weeks holidays

Work at a school :)
 
Title: Systems and Database Administrator
Hours: 2:45pm to 11:15pm
Lunch length: Well...that's tricky...I'll explain
Compensation: Salary + Benefits + Cable TV...hehe..oh and a bunch of vacation that I can never take because of minimum manning requirements.

I work in Cheyenne Mountain AFS..."NORAD" might ring a bell for some. It's where we keep the stargate, bigfoot, and several aliens.
I just got this job about 4 months ago and I'm going to be working 4:45am to 3:15pm 4 days per week as soon as someone on my current schedule gets his security clearance finalized. Could take awhile...but they keep saying "any day now". Whatever...
Since I'm in the mountain, I pretty much have to eat lunch inside. Too much of a pain to run in and out of the mountain for lunch. Inside, I can pretty much eat all day if I wanted though..
 
Dan_D said:
I don't care about that, I just want money.
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Right...that makes sense...make less hourly then being salaried with your own hours and full benefits.

I would rather negotiate my work then give it away.
 
Title: IT Lackey
Hours: 7:30-12:30 TTh
Lunch length: none
Compensation: Hourly

Yeah, I'm moving to a different job this summer :p
 
msny said:
Right...that makes sense...make less hourly then being salaried with your own hours and full benefits.

I would rather negotiate my work then give it away.
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Actually, I do have bennefits and I get paid pretty well. If you have to work more hours salaried, then you are actually making less per hour. With me, anything over 40 hours gets me time and a half. Sure you can work less hours potentially with salary, but I've never been in a job where that was the norm. Usually I had to work more than 40 hours a week, and it didn't get me anything extra. That BLOWS.
 
Whatever the client needs, but generally 8am to 5pm. Lunch, if it happens, happens at my desk and usually takes about 15 min.
 
Dan_D said:
Actually, I do have bennefits and I get paid pretty well. If you have to work more hours salaried, then you are actually making less per hour. With me, anything over 40 hours gets me time and a half. Sure you can work less hours potentially with salary, but I've never been in a job where that was the norm. Usually I had to work more than 40 hours a week, and it didn't get me anything extra. That BLOWS.
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Sorry to hear that, but that is why it is important to negotiate that stuff up front. As an example I got 3 weeks vacation my first year on the job even though the policy said 1 week. Fifteen years later in the same job I'm still in a position to negotiate. If I was hourly + time and half my compensation would be about 1/2 of what I get now based on average hourly increases....and some are getting paid that way and getting screwed for it.

So hourly plus overtime does not mean your making more money, it could mean your working harder for less over time as compared to others. It's a fallacy if you want to make real money and get ahead. It's also the difference between a job and a career.
 
Title: Storage Engineer
Hours: 7:00am - 4:30pm (I surf the net for the first 30 minutes or so)
Official Hours: 8:30am to 5pm
Lunch: 1 hour
What I'll switch to eventually: 9:15 - 5
Lunch: None
Compensation: Salary
 
Title: Network Manager/Administrator
Hours: official 8am - 4:45pm - actual 7:30am - 4:45pm Mon-Fri occasional Saturday mornings
Lunch length: 1 hour or so
Compensation: Salaried, medical, dental and vision, 401k, and comp time for any time spent beyond regular office hours.
 
msny said:
Sorry to hear that, but that is why it is important to negotiate that stuff up front. As an example I got 3 weeks vacation my first year on the job even though the policy said 1 week. Fifteen years later in the same job I'm still in a position to negotiate. If I was hourly + time and half my compensation would be about 1/2 of what I get now based on average hourly increases....and some are getting paid that way and getting screwed for it.

So hourly plus overtime does not mean your making more money, it could mean your working harder for less over time as compared to others. It's a fallacy if you want to make real money and get ahead. It's also the difference between a job and a career.
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I'm failing to see your point.

If you can get away with working less than 40 hours, but you get paid a flat salary, then that's great. I have never experienced this however. I've always had to work more than 40 hours and just not get paid more for it. That sucks because you make less per hour when you calculate the extra time spent working. On the other hand, if I work more than 40 hours, I get paid a larger hourly rate and therefore I'll make more money if I work more.

I can see it going either way dependong on how much time you actually have to work vs. what you get paid. As far as bennefits negotiations, I've rarely seen any companies that are willing to deal very much on those issues.
 
Current Job:
Title: Executive IT Help Desk Analyst
Hours: 6:00am - 2:30pm
Lunch: 45 minutes + 2x 15 minute breaks
Compensation: Hourly + bonus + benefits

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Contract work:
Title: Network Administrator / Application Developer (Two Clients)
Hours: Very Ad Hoc. Just depends on when I can fit it in.
Lunch: None
Compensation: Hourly. I'm on payroll with one client and another one just pays me as I go.

I'll be leaving my current job and getting a new one while retaining my contract work.

New Job starting next monday:
Title: Junior DBA
Hours 8:00am - 6:00pm (although it is flex time and I can work from home when desired)
Lunch: Varies
Compensation: Salary + sign-on bonus + bonuses + stock options + benefits
 
Title: Field Engineer
Hours: 8:30AM-5PM (These were just because I asked. Normally I'd have to take an hour lunch and come in at 8, but I asked for a half hour lunch so I get to sleep in. :D )
Lunch length: Usually a half hour, sometimes more. Depends how busy we are, since most of the time we're watching DVDs anyway.
Compensation: Hourly wage + benefits + 401K that I have not yet taken advantage of + mileage + laid back enough that I can tell my supervisor "fuck you".
 
Dan_D said:
I'm failing to see your point.

If you can get away with working less than 40 hours, but you get paid a flat salary, then that's great. I have never experienced this however. I've always had to work more than 40 hours and just not get paid more for it. That sucks because you make less per hour when you calculate the extra time spent working. On the other hand, if I work more than 40 hours, I get paid a larger hourly rate and therefore I'll make more money if I work more.

I can see it going either way dependong on how much time you actually have to work vs. what you get paid. As far as bennefits negotiations, I've rarely seen any companies that are willing to deal very much on those issues.
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Here is the point then....it's basic economics 101
We have eight people in our department not including the manager. Three of which are currently on the clock as hourly + time 1/2. Two of them have similar credentials to mine, and they both work overtime. Even if I worked the exact same overtime hours my salary is still much higher then there's for any particular pay period. For them to come close to my BASE salary they would have to work apx 70+ hours every week.

Many times because of senority they are forced to work and I'm not. Even if I did work the exact same hours + overtime they did and divided my salary into an hourly rate it is way higher then theres.

Working more hours does not mean getting paid more, because it's relative. Thats why we have overpaid CEO's and CFO's running around.

Thats my point.
 
System Administrator/Ticketing Manager

I work for a large performing arts theater that has performances running year round.

Work hours
Monday through Friday 8am - 4pm
Sat and Sun ~5pm - 9pm

whenever there isn't shows I get the weekends off (about %50 of the time there are shows on weekends though)

It's not bad for right now but hopefully in the future I will have an office with a window :(
 
Title: Tech Support/Technical Writer/Assistant System Admin
Hours: 7:00am - 4:00pm
Lunch: 1 Hour
Compensation: Salary+Crappy Health/Dental

Good part is they are laxed. With my situation, I kick butt, do my job, do some extra around here on my own it gets noticed. I dont get a raise, but I get the time off. I took Monday (yesterday off) 2 weeks ago I took a Friday off. I will be taking another 3-4 Days in the next 2 months and its all paid and no quarrels. Chances are I will be able to keep this job and Telecommute when I move too.
 
Title: Network Admin
Hours: 7am-4pm with a few hours overtime a week in the spring.
Compensation: Hourly + health/vision/dental $100/month + free housing
 
Title: Network Administrator
Hours: 8:30am - 5:00pm
Lunch: 1 hour
Compensation: Salary + medical / dental / vision for me and the family + all the training I want + 30 days vacation + unlimited sick time + all of the school holidays off (k12 education FTW) + 401K blah blah blah
 
Compensation: Salary + medical / dental / vision for me and the family + all the training I want + 30 days vacation + unlimited sick time + all of the school holidays off (k12 education FTW) + 401K blah blah blah
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Holy shit...I need to move to metro Detroit. (I never thought I'd say that.)
 
Title: Sr. Network Administrator
Hours: 7:30am - 5:00pm
Lunch: 1 hour
Compensation: salary + free medical/vision/dental very nice raises
 
Title: Network Administrator
Hours: 12-5pm. (Small aerospace engineering firm, only need part time)
Compensation: Salary + medical/dental/vision

Title: Private Consulting on the side
Hours: When ever I am needed
Compensation: Im not cheap, esp late at night or on a weekend :)
 
msny said:
Here is the point then....it's basic economics 101
We have eight people in our department not including the manager. Three of which are currently on the clock as hourly + time 1/2. Two of them have similar credentials to mine, and they both work overtime. Even if I worked the exact same overtime hours my salary is still much higher then there's for any particular pay period. For them to come close to my BASE salary they would have to work apx 70+ hours every week.

Many times because of senority they are forced to work and I'm not. Even if I did work the exact same hours + overtime they did and divided my salary into an hourly rate it is way higher then theres.

Working more hours does not mean getting paid more, because it's relative. Thats why we have overpaid CEO's and CFO's running around.

Thats my point.
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Again your point isn't being driven home very well. You are paid more and you make more. That has nothing to do with hourly vs. salary. You simply make more than the others for what ever reason.

I'd rather get paid hourly, and ensure that I get more money for working longer than to have to work longer, and get paid for the same amount of money no matter if I work 40 hours or 60 hours.
 
Title: IT Ops Support Tech
Hours: 8 AM - 4 PM.
Lunch: Usually eat at my desk while on the go.
Compensation: Hourly

Just started this not too long ago, and for the next 4 months I'll probably end up as "PODAR", but it seems fun. :)
 
Dan_D said:
Again your point isn't being driven home very well. You are paid more and you make more. That has nothing to do with hourly vs. salary. You simply make more than the others for what ever reason.

I'd rather get paid hourly, and ensure that I get more money for working longer than to have to work longer, and get paid for the same amount of money no matter if I work 40 hours or 60 hours.
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I have nothing against your bad choices. If what you do fits your situation your good to go. You need to do the research and you would find it in salary surveys and job offerings. Simply put, salaried workers in higher level IT careers do much better on a salary and don't work any more or less then hourly. Since your not getting it, you will continue to be a lower paid hourly worker.

Good luck with that!
 
Title: Computer Guru (Seriously)
Hours: 7am-7pm mon-fri, 8am-4pm Sat, 8am-4pm Sun
Real hours: 7am-6pm mon-fri, 8am-1pm or 2pm Sat, Sun off or 8-1pm otherwise.
Lunch: One hour whenever wherever I choose (usually one and a half or two hours)
Compensation: Day Rate technically I'm a contractor. Six figures and 401k.

Typical day is surfing and babysitting users. Sometimes I'm training, creating manuals and performing damage control. For the most part I maintain a database front end for a few thousand users on the upswing and a few hundred on the downswing. When I need time off I let my boss know when I won't be in. I refused a pager or phone.
 
Dan_D said:
Again your point isn't being driven home very well. You are paid more and you make more. That has nothing to do with hourly vs. salary. You simply make more than the others for what ever reason.

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Exactly...one cannot base an arguement about salary vs hourly....based on the exact hourly situation at his/her company. Some people might not realize this..but...things actually vary from company to company. Thus...what they perceive to be their situation, may not apply globally.

Salary vs hourly..there are MANY things to consider.

Some places consider salary to be 35 hour weeks, others 40 hours weeks, others unspoken rules about it being 45-50 hours..even though 40 on paper. So what is the work environment, what are you actually putting in, what is expected, how flexible are they, etc. Do you get merit bonuses, do you get COL increases along with the hourlies, etc. A salary doesn't always have to be "flat". Sometimes it's nice, for budget purposes, to know your check will always be what it is.

Hourly...yeah it's nice to know you have a shot at overtime. I worked at a place many years ago where I frequently did over 60, sometimes 70, 80, I'd even broken 90 hour weeks. I was lucky to have that opportunity back then..I was young...so I could bang out those hours and still remain alive. Some places allow overtime. Some places don't. Sometimes, depending upon how a department budgets...people can get used to getting overtime..and suddenly...budget crunch time...no more overtime. Now..those people who got used to the style of living of having a fat paycheck due to consistant overtime..are living on bread and water because of scrawny checks. You also get into a law of diminishing returns...once you get over a certain number of OT hours. Depending on your tax bracket...I think back then..it was worth it for me to work up to 58 hours..past that...and the taxes yanked out made it working for straight pay again.

On the other end of things...some places, due to their budget, can't afford to give someone a high salary, they'll negotiate an hourly wage...but on the side...mention that OT is allowed. My girlfriend does this at the law firm she works at..they hired her...couldn't give her the salary she wanted, but did say she could go hourly...and rack up hours of OT based on client cases she worked. They bill against the client case, so they can afford her that way.

So there's pros and cons to both sides.
I do a mix for myself! :) As a consultant, we pay ourselves a flat salary for each week...and on top of that..a % of the billed hours as they get paid. So my paycheck varies...during very busy times...big projects, paychecks are big. During slow times..like a week when no checks come in from clients...we still have a base pay to carry us over. Ya get the best of both worlds that way. :D
 
Exactly...one cannot base an arguement about salary vs hourly....based on the exact hourly situation at his/her company. Some people might not realize this..but...things actually vary from company to company. Thus...what they perceive to be their situation, may not apply globally.
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I was giving only a specific example of how salary would be a better thing then going hourly. Obviously, this is not a global example but it happens frequently. Salary surveys and posted job opening's for IT almost always show much better compensation then hourly. Not to mention a nice matching 401k plan where a company can give you a real income boost. Sometimes overall benefits for salaried people are also better.

Some places consider salary to be 35 hour weeks, others 40 hours weeks, others unspoken rules about it being 45-50 hours..even though 40 on paper. So what is the work environment, what are you actually putting in, what is expected, how flexible are they, etc. Do you get merit bonuses, do you get COL increases along with the hourlies, etc. A salary doesn't always have to be "flat". Sometimes it's nice, for budget purposes, to know your check will always be what it is.
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Flat salaries for high level IT jobs are almost always negotiated. It's not how much time it takes to do a task on the clock, it's if you produce results in a timely fashion. This may be addressed more in executive salaries but does apply to high level IT staff in a lot of cases. If you are working up the latter in a career vs just a job this becomes apparent.

Hourly...yeah it's nice to know you have a shot at overtime. I worked at a place many years ago where I frequently did over 60, sometimes 70, 80, I'd even broken 90 hour weeks. I was lucky to have that opportunity back then..I was young...so I could bang out those hours and still remain alive. Some places allow overtime. Some places don't. Sometimes, depending upon how a department budgets...people can get used to getting overtime..and suddenly...budget crunch time...no more overtime. Now..those people who got used to the style of living of having a fat paycheck due to consistant overtime..are living on bread and water because of scrawny checks. You also get into a law of diminishing returns...once you get over a certain number of OT hours. Depending on your tax bracket...I think back then..it was worth it for me to work up to 58 hours..past that...and the taxes yanked out made it working for straight pay again.
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Yep, when your young with no experience you have no leverage. You work your brains out for anything that comes your way. If your in union then you have an even better situation being hourly(sometimes). We all have to start somewhere.

On the other end of things...some places, due to their budget, can't afford to give someone a high salary, they'll negotiate an hourly wage...but on the side...mention that OT is allowed. My girlfriend does this at the law firm she works at..they hired her...couldn't give her the salary she wanted, but did say she could go hourly...and rack up hours of OT based on client cases she worked. They bill against the client case, so they can afford her that way.

So there's pros and cons to both sides.
I do a mix for myself! As a consultant, we pay ourselves a flat salary for each week...and on top of that..a % of the billed hours as they get paid. So my paycheck varies...during very busy times...big projects, paychecks are big. During slow times..like a week when no checks come in from clients...we still have a base pay to carry us over. Ya get the best of both worlds that way.
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Lots of companies have several pay scales like mine
Hourly + OT
Salary + OT over 40 hours
Salary no OT
Executive

I am in the Salary no OT scale and I'm glad I am because I'm considered close to executive status. One needs to also count benefits as part of there overall salary also.

I don't disagree with your post, but there is more to it then a salary vs hourly discussion as to which is good,better,best....
 
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