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What happened to Blackviper's site?
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rcolbert said:
My point is these stupid "tweaks" don't do squat to improve performance, other than indexing service.
You want a tweak? Here you go.
Right click on My Computer and click Properties
Click on the Advanced tab and click on Settings under Performace.
Check Adjust for best performance
Click OK, and click OK again to exit.
There. A "tweak" that will actually boost performance..
Now call me blackviper2 and give me a website.
so when someone's opinion differs from ur own, they are n00bs? and i am definitely not a fanb0yS1nF1xx said:So just because quackviper has a website it means he knows what he's talking about huh? Well, I'm going to put a section on my site about how deleting boot.ini makes your machine rox0rz and fast0rz and call it tweak.
Service tweaking is the dumbest n00biest thing you can do to your system.
As was stated before, his tweaks are nothing more than a placebo. "My machine just feels faster, I know it."
Mods should start locking threads about quackviper and ban those who start these stupid threads. This topic can't be discussed without flaming because the quackviper fanb0ys don't listen to any of the facts presented to them.
slamgoku said:
Because anyone who knows what's going on will see that these tweaks do nothing for performance, and actually could do more to make the system unstable.
The fanb0y comment comes from you people blindly following this stupid guide without any scientific or even any half-assed data to backup the claims of performance gains.
Great, with a sample size of 1 we can draw vast conclusions from that. No one said "everyone" will have problems X, Y and Z.slamgoku said:
Great, you have proven without a doubt that he used the wrong word. He point still remains solid.slamgoku said:
Way to split hairs and lose focus.
and i followed it VERY strictly, this was a few years ago. Disabling services can lead to errors if u disable needed ones. but disabling unneeded ones will not hurt. and his guide had no unneeded ones being disabled. my point being dont hate on this dude blackviper because a bunch of dumbass n00bs hosed their own machines.S1nF1xx said:
thats quite paradoxical. because it takes intense focus to split hairs.Phoenix86 said:Great, with a sample size of 1 we can draw vast conclusions from that. No one said "everyone" will have problems X, Y and Z.
Great, you have proven without a doubt that he used the wrong word. He point still remains solid.
Way to split hairs and lose focus.
slamgoku said:
I'm not arguing about the stability as much as I'm asking for proof that those tweaks do what quackviper says they will...improve performance.
Will someone show me proof that they increase performance? I doubt many of you use the tweak guides to increase security as much as you use it to increase performance.
Show us non-believers proof of your performance gains.
Too fast for the computer to measure? I think not.slamgoku said:
Proof is in the pudding, if you didn't notice, why did you make the effort? Why would you defend it/recommend it, if it did nothing for you?
I think you went blind splitting that last hair.
slamgoku said:
The title of your post is "they will all theoretically improve performance".
That's pretty funny.
Deleting boot.ini will theoretically improve performance by freeing up more space on your hard drive. It doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Phoenix86 said:
Exactly.
I am willing to bet someone's going to argue and say it's still a good idea. Honestly, I'd bet that. This week has shown that some people will argue to no end, despite a half a dozen people showing links and other forms of proof. You gotta love it here.S1nF1xx said:
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cgrant26 said:
I've done some googling on Black Viper and can't find anything about him 'quiting' or whatever. Site is still down, maybe he forgot or didn't want to renew.
djnes said:
Some people just like to argue to be different. Some like to try and win arguments by spewing out random drivel rather than providing proof to backup their claims.
Good thing we have you to keep them in line!
djnes said:And once again, I will state that the discussion isn't about security. The entire friggin point of this thread is about performance in relation to disabling services. Do you want me to write that in crayon and scan it in so you get it?
OMG I almost busted a nut reading that. LOL!
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O[H]-Zone said:
Still waiting............
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Badger_sly said:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=872223
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=805003
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=854803
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=826703
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=791138
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=872734
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=807236
Only took a couple minutes to find these few with a couple keywords. I'm sure more can be found, but since no one here pays my going rate, I am certainly not going to waste my time trying to compile a comprehensive list for a thread that will undoubtedly be locked shortly.
BTW since the search does not go back prior to 2004, results are limited to this year and last year.
The burden of proof should be on the ones who claim these tweaks give a performance boost in the first place.
If the tweaks don't offer increased performance, none of this is relevant. And since no one can provide evidence of the tweaks helping, what the hell is the point of arguing about whether or not the tweaks provide instability?
In the end, the only "tweaking" that's going on is in quackviper's wallet from people clicking the banners on his site.
If the tweaks don't offer increased performance, none of this is relevant. And since no one can provide evidence of the tweaks helping, what the hell is the point of arguing about whether or not the tweaks provide instability?
In the end, the only "tweaking" that's going on is in quackviper's wallet from people clicking the banners on his site.
And if you'll actually look at those links, one is the one I was talking about, one has no proof, one is most likely not related to services, and the rest are just drivel intended to make it seem like there really are problems with services. So now we know two things:SJConsultant said:
Djnes is willing to post untruths in his quest to be right.
SJConsultant is willing to post drivel in the quest to be right.
That's the best you could do then? A search of these forums by someone antagonistic to my claims has yielded one, count 'em...one example of proof that someone had a problem disabling a service, and it was the one I've been mentioning all along.
Thanks for helping me to prove my point.
The point of arguing is that O[H]-Zone has a huge whole in his life he must fill with needless arguing. Search by his username, and you'll see. He's been given more proof than anyone should have wasted the effort on, but still can't grasp it. A psychiatrist would have a field day with him.S1nF1xx said:
You have provided nothing resembling "proof". Your idea of proof is when you make a statement. Well, you made one...you said there were "many many" posts on these forums from people experiencing problems after disabling services. That was not true. There was one.
You were given more links, and you were told to do the search yourself. I found 85 threads in the OS forum alone. Are you that lazy?
Ladies and gentlemen, for his next act, O[H]-Zone will attempt to argue that the Earth is in fact, flat after all.
Ladies and gentlemen, for his next act, O[H]-Zone will attempt to argue that the Earth is in fact, flat after all.
And I don't believe you. The links SJConsultaant posted were drivel...the only one in there that actually was a problem caused by services being disabled was the one I've been talking about.djnes said:
In short sir, I am quite convinced that you are a liar. You made a statement, I challenged you on it, and you were unable to provide proof, and then lied further about finding 85 threads with some sort of conclusion indicating that turning services off caused a problem. Call me anything you want; it carries no weight coming from you. If you'd like to prove me wrong, provide 10 of these phantom links for ouir perusal. Otherwise, move along litte man...
I even refined the search down to 56 just so a lazy son of a bitch like you can handle it. Seriously, grow the fuck up. Is it that bad for you to admit you were wrong? Is your mommy going to stop loving you?
http://www.hardforum.com/search.php?searchid=1003467
http://www.hardforum.com/search.php?searchid=1003467
Those are all links to posts that mention the word "services". Most of them are people who had a problem, and the first thing you did was ask "did you disable any services", and most of the time, the answer was no. Once again, I put it to you directly.djnes said:
Give 10 posts that show that someone had a problem caused by disabling services to back your "many many people having problems" statement, or be confirmed a liar.
I am done with you. You've been given more than enough proof. You've been asked to provide proof of your point, and failed to do so. You have no platform to stand on asking me for anything when you can find your own proof, nor do a simple search on your own. You've been told by several people that you were wrong. You've been told the archives only go back to 2004...XP and Blackviper have been around a long time before then. You've been given more than adequate information. I am choosing to do as the others and leave you to wallow in your own bullshit. You have what your looking for....do what the fuck you want. Call me a liar all you want...and not some superficial fool like you who gives a shit what people say about me on an internet forum. I'm sorry your on view of self is that bad you can't handle it.
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O[H]-Zone said:
Prove what point? Other than you refuse to accept that the first three links are people having problems because they visited Blackvipers web site, edited services and were having problems as a result of editing services?
So you admit that the other four were drivel? So you're a confirmed drivel-poster, good luck with that...
And the first three:
First post: I shut off services and now I can't get system restore to work. But there's no closing...he never says "I turned them back on and it worked"
It could have been anything. No proof here
Second post: I turned off some services and now task manager doesn't work. But he also mentions that he did the same tweaks before and didn't have the problem.
It was probably something else. No proof here
Third post: I tweaked, and now I have problems. But in the same thread he says that he fixed the problems, and didn't have to restore any services
Services weren't the problem. Proof here...that it wasn't service related
Once again, someone antagonistic to what I'm saying had done a search, and found the exact same thing I did...there is one, count 'em...one example of someone having problems after disabling sevices. One. And that was because he disabled RPC, a no-brainer.
Thanks for helping me to prove my point.
And the first three:
First post: I shut off services and now I can't get system restore to work. But there's no closing...he never says "I turned them back on and it worked"
It could have been anything. No proof here
Second post: I turned off some services and now task manager doesn't work. But he also mentions that he did the same tweaks before and didn't have the problem.
It was probably something else. No proof here
Third post: I tweaked, and now I have problems. But in the same thread he says that he fixed the problems, and didn't have to restore any services
Services weren't the problem. Proof here...that it wasn't service related
Once again, someone antagonistic to what I'm saying had done a search, and found the exact same thing I did...there is one, count 'em...one example of someone having problems after disabling sevices. One. And that was because he disabled RPC, a no-brainer.
Thanks for helping me to prove my point.
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