Which 24"+ S-PVA/IPS for professional use?

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Please recommend me which LCD should I buy for my office. I am a professional programmer and web developer doing lots of stuff and spending lots and lots of hours on front a pc. I am very picky about the display and I need as much screen "real estate" as I can get my hands on.

I now have a dual monitor setup a 20" Samsung 206BW with an old 17" Hitachi LCD right beside it. The good thing about them is that they share the same pixel width and they produce a nice monitor layout.

I read much about panel types and I concluded that I need at least an S-PVA one but an H-IPS would be prefferable. I want a 24" to 30" as my main monitor which will have one of the best image qualities in the market, don't forget that I need it for strictly professional use so I want the best for text, clarity and real estate. I will never buy a TN tft again, I won't tolerate the narrow viewing angles anymore, not now that there are alternative technologies.

I got a little confused with the new trend for wide gamut monitors, as a professional I would love to have one but in the other hand I am not a photographer, or designing for print, I only design for the web so sRGB would be all I would need. But for the same reason, I want as must color accuracy on sRGB as I can get.

Secondly I have a dillema on the size of the monitor, 24" or 30"? or maybe 27"? I know that above 24" you need a dual-link DVI so this rules out a second monitor, should I get a 30" one (and more expensive) or should I get a 24" one and put my 17" or 20" samsung beside it? I think the second option is the clear way to go, but I would love to hear your opinions on this also please.

I looked at EIZOs also, but they don't seem to offer anything better from other quality brands except that they are targeting the photography/print pro market with extreme color accuracy and extreme prices. I would love to have one on my desk, it's a very heavy brand to own, but I think samsung 245T for example has the same features and quality at a more affordable price.

If you were a professional (or if you are) which one would you get?

I want:
  • Image quality/Sharpness
  • Color accuracy
  • Screen real estate (the more the better)
  • Full pivot, height and tilting (this is essential)
  • Build-manufacturing quality
NOTE: I live in Europe (Greece) so I cannot get some brands which are only in USA (like westinghouse, planar etc), even Dell is difficult to order.
 
Nektarios said:
I know that above 24" you need a dual-link DVI so this rules out a second monitor
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Dual-link DVI is still only one cable. If your video card supports Dual-link DVI and has two outputs, you can still run a second monitor.
 
The most common high-end recommendation, assuming price is not an issue and you're shooting for 24", is the NEC LCD2490WUXi.

The Eizo listed below is likely (certainly) better, but is even more spendy :)
 
This NEC and this EIZO is aimed towards the photographers pro market, I don't really care about them, I was thinking along the lines of a good monitor like Samsung 245T or Dell 3008WFP.
 
My parents have a 245T, and having used it myself, I can confidently say it's quite nice :) It's an S-PVA panel, so viewing angles are good.
 
And what about the Samsung 305T, or the more expensive Dell 3008WFP? My dilemma keeps growing and growing.
 
Nektarios said:
And what about the Samsung 305T, or the more expensive Dell 3008WFP? My dilemma keeps growing and growing.
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Do you want to have one really big monitor with smaller one as clear secondary (pushed to side by bigger) or two closer to same size monitors with both more easily viewable?
Also what kind budget you was thinking?

For checking viewing angles/panel type of monitors this page is good:
http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&ma2=48&mo2=271&p2=2516&ph=8
(great viewing angles from that BenQ's new 24" next step backwards TN monitor)

As far as text clarity is concerned all LCD monitors are pretty much equal because of their digital nature unless there's something badly wrong in monitor. (or you use it at non-native resolution)

Nektarios said:
NOTE: I live in Europe (Greece) so I cannot get some brands which are only in USA (like westinghouse, planar etc), even Dell is difficult to order.
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You can order from outside Greece without additional taxes as long as you stay inside EU.
http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=monlcd23wide
 
E.T said:
Do you want to have one really big monitor with smaller one as clear secondary (pushed to side by bigger) or two closer to same size monitors with both more easily viewable?
Also what kind budget you was thinking?
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I want to have a big one and a smaller one beside it (e.g. my samsung 206BW), my budget is at 1500-1600 euros.

For checking viewing angles/panel type of monitors this page is good:
http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&ma2=48&mo2=271&p2=2516&ph=8
(great viewing angles from that BenQ's new 24" next step backwards TN monitor)

As far as text clarity is concerned all LCD monitors are pretty much equal because of their digital nature unless there's something badly wrong in monitor. (or you use it at non-native resolution)

You can order from outside Greece without additional taxes as long as you stay inside EU.
http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=monlcd23wide
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Yes but I had some bad experiences with foreign orders before and now the cost will be too high to risk it again.

I don't want extreme color accuracy (take a look at the Graphic Monitors of EIZO for example, they even come with a colimeter and a shader) I just need a good professional monitor for heavy use.

Considering that I will not play any games, nor see movies on it, maybe it's easier if I ask this: should I go for an IPS or for a PVA one?
 
spam281 said:
The wide gamut is cool and all, but doesn't help me for HDTV and browsing the web. Does anyone know of a 1920x1200 IPS non-wide-gamut panel for less than the NEC?
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The only other choice would be the 23" Apple Cinema Display.
 
ToastyX said:
The only other choice would be the 23" Apple Cinema Display.
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ToastyX, i was wondering if you could provide any further info on the Apple 23" display. You seem to indicate that the Apple has an IPS screen and i a new/revised edition of this display has appeared on a UK website. I had already started a thread about this screen but i've had not much luck on getting answers!

The thread can be found here:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1281725

The retailer's website can be found here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-001-AP&groupid=703&catid=17&subcat=510

Bascially, what i'm after is the type of panel that is used in the new revised edition. Is it an IPS screen or perhaps the new H-IPS screen like the NEC2690!!

If you could help me out, it would be greatly appreciated as i'm very interested in this model and i think it might be suitable for Nektarios. (hopefully i haven't de-railed the OP original thread!!)

Thanks
 
Apple have not updated their panels, the 23" is using end of life LCD modules. They are very early generation S-IPS, there is no way you can compare this to an NEC 2490/2690.

The panels in the current Apple 23" are dated 2005.
 
How 'bout the NEC LCD2470WNX? I believe it's a VA type panel.

There is also the LCD 2690WuXi-BK which is a 26" H-IPS display. The WuXi-SV model has a colorimeter which you probably don't need.

I would also say that the Samsung 275T Plus looks like a nice monitor as well for your purposes, though some have said that the wide gamut panel causes some oversaturation, but that can likely be calibrated or adjusted out.

There is also the Dell 2707WFP which is highly regarded.

Additionally, the new LG W2600HP looks good, and it's a new IPS panel, of which LG is quite good (but not the HP-F which is TN)

Good luck,

10e
 
I don't know how/why anyone would consider a PVA panel for professional use. See this review comparing the tone/gamma shifting of the PVA panel vs the NEC 2490.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1283131
http://monitortest.blogspot.com/

If you can get the NEC 2490, get it. It is the first choice IMO. Only consider a wide gamut monitor if you really understand color management and have very specific wide gamut needs AND you won't be spending much time working with sRGB. For the original poster, this doesn't sound like the case.

The NEC 2490 is first choice by a wide margin IMO.
 
Snowdog said:
I don't know how/why anyone would consider a PVA panel for professional use. See this review comparing the tone/gamma shifting of the PVA panel vs the NEC 2490.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1283131
http://monitortest.blogspot.com/

If you can get the NEC 2490, get it. It is the first choice IMO. Only consider a wide gamut monitor if you really understand color management and have very specific wide gamut needs AND you won't be spending much time working with sRGB. For the original poster, this doesn't sound like the case.

The NEC 2490 is first choice by a wide margin IMO.
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Which 24"+ S-PVA/IPS for professional use?

I want:

* Image quality/Sharpness
* Color accuracy
* Screen real estate (the more the better)
* Full pivot, height and tilting (this is essential)
* Build-manufacturing quality
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certainly sounds like the NEC 2490 or 2690to me, but the original poster is passing it up because its aimed at "professionals":confused::confused:
 
Glad to stumble across this post, if I can revive it now... Nektarios, any chance you're still around? I'm wondering what you chose in the end. I'm in a near identical situation, and unfortunately cannot get approval for the NEC 2490 at my office due to budget constraints.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1354055
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1355595

So I was considering the Samsung 245T (275T+ is oversized for my needs and has poor dot pitch compared to the 246T), but still fishing around to check out other options.
 
For sRGB, non-wide gamut, CAD$600-800, I'm thinking BenQ FP241W. Since its been discontinued, may have to fall back on Samsung 245T...
 
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