Win7 x64 issue. Very strange!

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While my inital statements may have been a bit harsh, I have followed the suggestions in this thread.
1. if your reading comprehension was a quick as your tongues you would note that this problem occurred from day one install. BEFORE any of this software was installed on the machine. I have tried disabling everything I can think of. I have watched the task manager for hours and followed every hint given here and elsewhere.

2. I feel like I'm talking to cable tech support. "No, I will not restart my computer just because you don't understand what is going on and the book tells you to say that."

3. Tawnos why do you assume that I didn't check the registry locations you posted? You asked about the startup programs in the PC. I gave you the list. Yes, I checked those locations. Those are all the programs that are 3rd party booting with Windows. Period.

4. Observation of the MMCS process leads me to believe that this service is interfering in ways it should not be. I have found that just before the latest incident the MMCS service was stopped by windows. Approximately five min or so after this service ending the problem occurred. I could be nothing or it could be something.

5. Hijack this scan log. I don't have any viruses nor am I infected with spyware.
Code: 
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.3 (BETA)
Scan saved at 6:14:48 PM, on 1/12/2010
Platform: Unknown Windows (WinNT 6.01.3504)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.7600.16385)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\TrendMicro\HiJackThis\HiJackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = 
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch = 
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = C:\Windows\SysWOW64\blank.htm
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = 
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [StartCCC] "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe" MSRun
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Core Temp] "C:\Program Files (x86)\SuperPI&WPrime\Core Temp.exe"
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\RunOnce: [mctadmin] C:\Windows\System32\mctadmin.exe (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\RunOnce: [mctadmin] C:\Windows\System32\mctadmin.exe (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
O13 - Gopher Prefix: 
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{41452E37-DB12-466A-B810-05B6D5B683C2}: NameServer = 68.105.28.11,68.105.29.11
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\..\{41452E37-DB12-466A-B810-05B6D5B683C2}: NameServer = 68.105.28.11,68.105.29.11
O17 - HKLM\System\CS2\Services\Tcpip\..\{41452E37-DB12-466A-B810-05B6D5B683C2}: NameServer = 68.105.28.11,68.105.29.11
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\efssvc.dll,-100 (EFS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: SiSoftware Deployment Agent Service (SandraAgentSrv) - SiSoftware - C:\Program Files\SiSoftware\SiSoftware Sandra Lite 2009.SP4\RpcAgentSrv.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\sppsvc.exe,-101 (sppsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\sppsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vaultsvc.dll,-1003 (VaultSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing)

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End of file - 4953 bytes

5. Latest SS of the incident occurring shown all processes currently ruining on the machine and show HDD activity going to 100% for a period of time for no apparent reason.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100412&stc=1&d=1263263543
I try to keep my PC's in good shape and I am no expert but some of the responses I am getting are redundant. I have used every tool available in windows to find the issue. If you can't think of anything better than, "Disable CCC and the sound card software", programs that are REQUIRED for the functionality of the OS, and just so happened to NOT be installed when this problem was first discovered then you are clearly just trolling me.
 
BallerX said:
I try to keep my PC's in good shape and I am no expert but some of the responses I am getting are redundant. I have used every tool available in windows to find the issue. If you can't think of anything better than, "Disable CCC and the sound card software", programs that are REQUIRED for the functionality of the OS, and just so happened to NOT be installed when this problem was first discovered then you are clearly just trolling me.
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Before I respond to the rest of the post. Your assertion is incorrect. Neither the Catalyst Control Center nor the realtek control panel are required for the functionality of the OS. The fact you claim they are means that maybe you should slow down before being such an asshole in your responses. We're trying to help, and eliminating any possible places causing issue is the first step in isolating the problem.
 
that's a lot of "file missing" for services :confused:

http://community.norton.com/norton/board/message?board.id=nis_feedback&thread.id=40283

lots of similarities in services/filenames for those "file missing"
and this quote
Legit services do or should not show up on Hijackthis, let along have "unknown owner" "(file missing)" or @.
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http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t22334.html
another thread showing a lot of those services you have with "file missing" should be removed.

O23 - Service: @dfsrres.dll,-101 (DFSR) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\DFSR.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\SLsvc.exe,-101 (slsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\SLsvc.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing)
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there's more in the last thread I posted a link to, you have a lot of those.

edit: here's 3 more
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t197651.html
http://forums.whatthetech.com/TROJAN_BHO_PT_2_t108862.html
http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=267685
 
It's possible that punkbuster is doing a system scan every hour. Try disabling PnkBstrA for now?
 
j-sta said:
that's a lot of "file missing" for services :confused:

http://community.norton.com/norton/board/message?board.id=nis_feedback&thread.id=40283

lots of similarities in services/filenames for those "file missing"
and this quote


http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t22334.html
another thread showing a lot of those services you have with "file missing" should be removed.



there's more in the last thread I posted a link to, you have a lot of those.

edit: here's 3 more
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t197651.html
http://forums.whatthetech.com/TROJAN_BHO_PT_2_t108862.html
http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=267685
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WOW, First of all, those entries show up when you disable a service. Second, It's a testament to the awesomeness of the OS when It doesn't remove registry entries for services that are disabled in it's own service menu.

Everyone of those things in the list are services that I disabled In the road to the diagnosis of this problem. I'll remove them and re-post the log if it will make you feel better, but it won't make a damned bit of difference one way or the other.

Tawnos

I disabled punkbuster for now. We will wait and see if it has any effect. I will also go ahead and disable CCC and the soundcard software for now as well. I have my doubts that that will make any difference and the second I actually want to play a movie I am going to have to re-start those services anyhow.
 
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Ok, it just happened again and none of those services where running. Now that I have satisfied you all that those services are not the issue, I am afraid we have come to the extent of my personal trouble shooting abilities with this problem.

So now that there is no 3rd party software running on the machine, I am satisfied that this is a windows problem plain and simple. I have a theory that the MMCS is at the root of this issue and that the service itself amounts to tits on a bull when it comes to the functionality of multimedia software in general. It has long been known that you don't change the priority of a multimedia process on the fly. Any attempt by MS to do so is taking a giant shit on the the way these programs work in general. Unfortunately, this service is fatally tied with windows audio now. It cannot be disabled unless you wish for windows audio to be disabled as well. It is horseshit like this that drives my animosity toward this OS.

One could ask MS to stop fixing things that aren't broken, but they really don't care if the software functions properly as long as people think it does and keep buying it.
 
Blaming the OS based solely on a theory you have when you haven't ruled out all possibilities? Good for you. Case closed then.
 
Do you even know what it does? I've studied the service years ago when Vista was affected with this bug, so pulling a card like that isn't going to fly. Why don't you prove that it's the MMCSS service instead of guessing? Maybe whenever a fly is within 2π meters from your PSU whenever you have the issue. You say that your HDD activity light stays lit during the time your computer is frozen, yet you don't bother investigating that apart from casually watching the Resource Monitor? Why haven't you done what Ranma_Sao suggested?

The best part is, you're set on the MMCSS service being the root cause of your issue then proceed in giving a diatribe that merely conveys your general attitude towards MS. Another generic, offtopic attempt to bash MS? Why don't you save your verbal assault till after you've figured out what the issue is.
 
I did DL that program and guess what? Still see anything out of the ordinary.

I did say it was a theory, not necessarily the cause of the problem but it appears to be.

Right now I am testing to see if it is the cheap ass IDE cable that came with the system. I am certainly willing to try anything.

So far, all I can tell is that it is on the hour every hour exactly the same minute as the computer is booted. Windows doesn't indicate that there is anything it is doing to cause the problem other than the strange behavior of MMCSS service. This may very well be the cable. I will know at 4:13am central because I just changed the cable and rebooted. We shall see.

If it does turn out to be the cable or even the HDD(which I haven't ruled out yet either). Then I swear to god, I will come back in here and sing the praises of win7 and all of you can call me bad names.:eek:
 
BallerX said:
HDD(which I haven't ruled out yet either)
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But you're sure it is the OS and fuck us for having Windows 7 running right? Are you kidding me?

Before you do anything else, or try another step, or posting something else insulting the people trying to help you, get the diag tool from your drive's website and test out the drive.
 
Windows 7 is a pretty fast install. What I would do is image your hard drive to another, wipe the drive, test w/ Seatools, then reinstall the OS. Use as many built into 7 drivers as possible, and see if the problem remains. Do not install anything other than the OS at this point. Then walk step by step through your install list to see if the problem surfaces.
 
BallerX said:
I did DL that program and guess what? Still see anything out of the ordinary.
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You should be seeing hundreds, if not thousands of entries per second, assuming you didn't change any filters when you first ran it. Are you saying that you didn't see anything at all? What about svchost.exe activity? I suggest you save the logs and upload them somewhere for others to inspect them.
 
Have you updated to the latest chipset drivers? I had an issue with my ASUS drivers working with Windows 7 and would lockup for 20 secs like yours would randomly then become responsive again. I updated to newer chipset drivers and that seemed to fix the issues.
 
lostnkonfused said:
I updated to newer chipset drivers and that seemed to fix the issues.
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That's one reason I always go to Intel for my chipset drivers, because they will be the newest. The board manufacturer's tend to have older or outdated ones on their websites.
 
DeaconFrost said:
But you're sure it is the OS and fuck us for having Windows 7 running right? Are you kidding me?

Before you do anything else, or try another step, or posting something else insulting the people trying to help you, get the diag tool from your drive's website and test out the drive.
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WOW, please read the thread people. I already downloaded Data Life guard tools and according to SMART everything checks out. That doesn't mean the drive is not faulty. The selective reading skills of some of you is amazing.

I will be getting an Intel 40GB SSD soon.
When it gets here I will just reinstall. I'm not worried about trying to clone my system drive as it stands, because I only keep windows on the C: partition anyway.

I didn't mean I didn't see anything with the SYSinternals program. What I mean is that I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. No processes are using more than 1% of the CPU or doing excessive reading or writing to the drive. No different that what you have seen in the SS already. The HD goes nuts exactly one hour after system boot and continues every hour after. I am not really sure what you guys are expecting me to see.

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That's one reason I always go to Intel for my chipset drivers, because they will be the newest. The board manufacturer's tend to have older or outdated ones on their websites.
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How exactly am I supposed to know what drivers to get from Intel? They don't list the P55 chipset on the DL website. My board was not made by Intel, it was made by Gigabyte. It is an intel chipset, but they don't list any drivers available when I search for P55. The last thing I want to do right now is go installing erroneous drivers.
 
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BallerX said:
How exactly am I supposed to know what drivers to get from Intel? They don't list the P55 chipset on the DL website. My board was not made by Intel, it was made by Gigabyte. It is an intel chipset, but they don't list any drivers available when I search for P55. The last thing I want to do right now is go installing erroneous drivers.
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Gigabyte designed the board, licensing the use of Intel's chipsets. So Gigabyte doesn't write the drivers for Intel's chipset.

Motherboard manufacturers 99% of the time just re-package Intel chipset drivers, and are often behind on the latest release.

5 second search on Intel for "P55 chipset" finds you this.
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-029901.htm
 
Snowknight26 said:
If the HDD goes nuts, you'll see it in process monitor. Still waiting for those logs.
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OMG WTF! What are you talking about? There is no way to save a log file that I can see!:confused:

No I don't see anything! What do you mean I should see it. I see the same thing I see with task manager and resource monitor. Nothing is using excess resources.

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I just took a SS while this was happening! What do you see? Because I see a big fat load of NOTHING!!!! HDD going fucking nuts yet zero CPU usage and I/O is decidedly flat! I can save a text file of process info but what good is that going to do If I don't know what process is causing this?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100443&stc=1&d=1263434125
 
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j-sta said:
Gigabyte designed the board, licensing the use of Intel's chipsets. So Gigabyte doesn't write the drivers for Intel's chipset.

Motherboard manufacturers 99% of the time just re-package Intel chipset drivers, and are often behind on the latest release.

5 second search on Intel for "P55 chipset" finds you this.
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-029901.htm
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Which leads you to an INF utility that does nothing! WTF do you guys even click the links you provide?
 
BallerX said:
Which leads you to an INF utility that does nothing! WTF do you guys even click the links you provide?
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do you not even try? seriously? are you that.... well, I would say stupid, but that might get me in trouble.

Go to Gigabyte's website and look at their drivers.
Guess what it shows for chipset? I just picked 6 random P55 board and all have the same link.

Chipset
Date Description Version Size
2009/11/16 Intel INF installation
Download from :
Asia Asia(China) America Europe Europe(Russia) : ftp / http 9.1.1.1020 1.18 MB
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now if this was nothing more than an INF file, why would Gigabyte list it as the ONLY chipset driver? Since you're oh so smart, you should know the answer to that.
And guess what? THIS IS THE SAME EXACT ARCHIVE INTEL HAD IN NOVEMBER THAT'S BEEN REPACKAGED.

get your damn head out of your ass and stop thinking you're better than everybody.
 
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OMFG, Do you know, how I know, it doesn't do anything? Because I ran the fucking program that's how. It didn't install shit. I unpacked the inf files followed the read me and windows says that the drivers I have are up to date! Guess what? Yep.. SAME FUCKING DRIVERS I ALREADY INSTALLED PER GIGABYTE!

Now, get your head out of your ass and stop thinking I cant fucking read or that I don't know how to update drivers!
 
BallerX said:
Which leads you to an INF utility that does nothing! WTF do you guys even click the links you provide?
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BallerX said:
I unpacked the inf files followed the read me and windows says that the drivers I have are up to date!
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well see, there's your problem, you contradict yourself.

you originally said "that does nothing"
but now you say it did do something, and then proceeded to tell you the drivers were already up to date.

Correct?

well, "does nothing" =\= "tells me drivers are already up to date"
 
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No again you all assume I haven't done anything at all.

1. I have been working on this problem for over a month. Don't you guys think I would have done all this shit already.
2. Why would you ever suggest someone install a driver that wasn't approved by the device MANUFACTURER. Intel did not make my board. Gigabyte did. Even if Intel's driver was newer, If Gigabyte hasn't tested and rolled out a driver update it could cause all sorts of problems.

Help me? Not one single person here has suggested anything I haven't tried. I feel like I'm talking to one of my customers that has no idea wtf is going on.

So once again, unless you have more than that the usual tech support book BS (that I have already tried) Stop posting.
Here is a list for your edification.
1 HDD tested repeatedly. SMART checks out and there are no bad sectors or corrupted files.
2 Drivers updated. All of them. Yes they are up to date.
3 Processes evaluated.
4 Scheduled tasks Evaluated
5 Windows logs Evaluated

All of that is normal.

What I am looking for is someone who knows exactly WTF is causing this. Anything else is pure conjecture. If you don't know then STFU.

What I am interested in.
Are other people with IDE drives having similar problems with this chipset and win7?
Answer... Yes, People all over the net are complaining that they are having similar problems. The only solution posted, so far, has been to buy a new HDD. Even though there is nothing wrong with the original drive at all. In these cases the drives are functioning properly in win XP systems with the exact same hardware.

The fact that it happens EVERY HOUR on the dot from when the system was booted makes it really hard to believe that this is a hardware problem. Normally, with hardware failure one would expect intermittent problems.

You guys are so quick to defend this POS software you aren't paying attention to what I am saying. If it isn't hardware failure, and it isn't some driver or program I have installed, that only leaves one thing.
Here lies the main issue. Windows says It isn't doing shit when this happens. Well, it is obviously accessing the HDD every hour after bootup for something. It is not a scheduled task. No log in event viewer shows anything happening at that time. So WTF can it be? Something windows is doing that it isn't logging? Something that the HDD is doing per it's firmware? Who knows? I don't! You all don't either. So why do you guys keep saying the same things over and over again.
 
this thread is full of chuckles :D

if i were the OP, i would have re-installed win7 the day it happened and see where that takes me... and probably left UAC on as well (in other words, dont mess with win7)
 
BallerX said:
2. Why would you ever suggest someone install a driver that wasn't approved by the device MANUFACTURER. Intel did not make my board. Gigabyte did. Even if Intel's driver was newer, If Gigabyte hasn't tested and rolled out a driver update it could cause all sorts of problems.
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The motherboard manufacturers implement the chipset Intel licenses them; Intel's latest drivers should readily work.

What specific problem do you expect of them?
 
makmatsu said:
this thread is full of chuckles :D

if i were the OP, i would have re-installed win7 the day it happened and see where that takes me... and probably left UAC on as well (in other words, dont mess with win7)
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+1:cool:

Actually I had a similar issue with my HP tx2 tablet. The original install of Windows 7 x64 Ultimate RTM I put on it did exactly the same thing. From time to time it would just freeze for 20 seconds, sometimes like a couple of minutes. I never figured out what the hell was going on but I've since reinstalled Windows 7 about three times for various reasons and it's never happened again.
 
Hmm, reminds me of a problem I had. One of my WD 2TB Green drives, the one I played movies from, would do something once in a while that caused movies to stutter, I reinstalled the OS trying to figure out the problem, but it kept happening, where as the system was fine for a couple months before that. Eventually the system would not boot with the drive plugged-in and once I removed it and put a new drive in there, the movies played from the new drive with no stutter and no further error. Also, I used a SMART tool I think I got from WD's web site, and it said everything was fine while the stuttering was happening (before the system stopped booting). So it could still be a bad hard drive, but every hour on the hour sounds like a software problem, imo, have you tried changing the clock ahead to see if you can make this problem happen "on command" ?

Also it makes no sense to suggest this is a windows or mmcs problem, since if it was, it would happen on everybody's systems and it doesn't. The problem is something else probably.
 
BallerX said:
2. Why would you ever suggest someone install a driver that wasn't approved by the device MANUFACTURER. Intel did not make my board. Gigabyte did. Even if Intel's driver was newer, If Gigabyte hasn't tested and rolled out a driver update it could cause all sorts of problems.
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except that Intel is the manufacturer of several components of the motherboard.
Gigabyte just puts it all together.

So you're saying nobody should use Nvidia's NForce drivers with their Nvidia-based GPU because it wasn't "manufactured" by Nvidia?
Nobody should use ATI's drivers, since the cards were manufactured by Sapphire, XFX, etc?

No, Intel did not make the board; they made several chipsets that are implemented on the board.
As I said, Gigabyte does not write the Chipset drivers. Intel does. Gigabyte simply re-packages them.
Therefore, there is absolutely no difference between Gigabyte and Intel drivers, if they are of the same version, except that they have been packaged differently.

But now I get curious... first you say the "inf file that does nothing," then proceed to say "ran it but it stated drivers were already up to date," and now you say you would never use drivers directly from Intel.

So which is it?
 
LOL @ the "it's a Gigabyte board, why would I use Intel drivers!?!"

Um...like others have said, it's a Gigabyte board, yes, but the damned thing has an Intel chipset.

*another facepalm*
 
I tried what you said because I don't really care about what happens with this install. I'm going to be blowing it away soon anyhow. If I was to call gigabyte tech support and they found out I was using drivers from intel's site and not theirs, they would tell me to install the drivers on their website. Stupid maybe, but that's what they would do before they even attempted to help.

This was a totally fresh install when I noticed this problem. I hadn't touched one single default setting. UAC was on, ETC. I was completely prepared to use it like that for a while and see how I liked it. Honestly, UAC isn't that annoying to me. Some people hate it. I happen to think it is one of the actual improvements made over winXP. I don't really hate win7. I just liked my cheep whore OS because it is old enough to work properly most of the time. And lets face it, If I had to go back to ME, I would blow my fucking brains out.

I know this is going to come as a shock to some of you, but I am an asshole! Right now, I'm in rage mode. Literally, the only thing that is keeping me sane is knowing that Newegg is selling a 40gb intel SSD for $129. They had better not be sold out by payday or I swear to god my forehead will split open and fire and snakes will come out.

I owe all of you an apology, that's for sure. You cared enough to attempt helping me with this problem. Which is more than I can say for a lot of folks.

I built my roommates PC at the same time with the exact same parts. The only part that is different is his system drive is some 5400RPM Fujitsu that he had installed in his old system. He says he hasn't had any problems, but all he does is run four instances of EQ:rolleyes: So I couldn't expect that he would noticed the problem at all.

Hmm. I have an idea. Since his system is exactly the same down to the video card, then I should be able to put his drive in this machine with no problems right? Is windows gonna throw a shit fit about unique hardware Id and ask me to reactivate?
 
BallerX said:
If I was to call gigabyte tech support and they found out I was using drivers from intel's site and not theirs, they would tell me to install the drivers on their website. Stupid maybe, but that's what they would do before they even attempted to help.
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Are you serious? Can you get your head out of your ass long enough to realize that Gigabyte takes Intel's drivers and puts them on their website...with a different file name? Intel makes the drivers, and it is up to the individual board manufacturer's to grab them and post them on their own site...if they feel like it. That takes time, human intervention, etc that leads to delays. Intel makes the drivers, as I said, and posts them immediately. So, by going to Intel, you get the latest. That's how it has been for years and years, with graphics cards, motherboards, sound card, network cards, etc.

If that is a concept you really don't understand, stop now, call Geek Squad, and let them fix your problem.
 
Try using a different program than Western Digital's to test the drive - I highly recommend grabbing Seatools for DOS. Boot to the disk, and run a long test. This is the best program to test for bad sectors on the drive, and what I use at work to test hard drives that thrash, load files slow, etc. It works great regardless of drive manufacturer, though will not attempt repair of bad sectors unless it is a Seagate drive.
 
I was really apprehensive about jumping in here with a suggestion because i'll probably get yelled at and called an asshole or something, but, do you have a SATA hard drive you can clone your OS over to and try that? You can install the SATA drivers then clone it over and you shouldn't have any issues when booting from the SATA drive. Or just do a fresh install to a SATA drive? Just for shits and giggles.
 
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BallerX said:
I tried what you said because I don't really care about what happens with this install. I'm going to be blowing it away soon anyhow. If I was to call gigabyte tech support and they found out I was using drivers from intel's site and not theirs, they would tell me to install the drivers on their website. Stupid maybe, but that's what they would do before they even attempted to help.
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/facepalm
are you serious? again, more speculation from you. Unless you actually tried this yet failed to mention that point (yet again, not mentioning a GOOD point), then I would say the tech you spoke with is a 'tard.
But again, from the way you typed that out, you are only providing more inaccurate speculation.

BallerX said:
This was a totally fresh install when I noticed this problem. I hadn't touched one single default setting. UAC was on, ETC. I was completely prepared to use it like that for a while and see how I liked it. Honestly, UAC isn't that annoying to me. Some people hate it. I happen to think it is one of the actual improvements made over winXP. I don't really hate win7. I just liked my cheep whore OS because it is old enough to work properly most of the time. And lets face it, If I had to go back to ME, I would blow my fucking brains out.
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somebody did post that they had issues with a fresh install of Win7, could not find the cause, but was cured with a re-install.
It's possible something with the original install got hosed, but not enough to make the whole system fail.

BallerX said:
I know this is going to come as a shock to some of you, but I am an asshole! Right now, I'm in rage mode.
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:eek: no way! /sarcasm

BallerX said:
Literally, the only thing that is keeping me sane is knowing that Newegg is selling a 40gb intel SSD for $129. They had better not be sold out by payday or I swear to god my forehead will split open and fire and snakes will come out.
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granted that's not a bad price for an SSD, I would try a reinstall first. If that doesn't fix it, find another hdd to try.

BallerX said:
I owe all of you an apology, that's for sure. You cared enough to attempt helping me with this problem. Which is more than I can say for a lot of folks.
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:eek: again. Atleast you cared enough to apologize.

BallerX said:
I built my roommates PC at the same time with the exact same parts. The only part that is different is his system drive is some 5400RPM Fujitsu that he had installed in his old system. He says he hasn't had any problems, but all he does is run four instances of EQ:rolleyes: So I couldn't expect that he would noticed the problem at all.
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as stated, it's possible something with the original install on your machine got pooched, but wasn't bad enough to cause complete system instability.

BallerX said:
Hmm. I have an idea. Since his system is exactly the same down to the video card, then I should be able to put his drive in this machine with no problems right? Is windows gonna throw a shit fit about unique hardware Id and ask me to reactivate?
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even if it does ask to re-activate, just ignore it. You can run for 30 days was it? before activating, or use the re-arm command to extend that.
But yes, if everything is the same, it wouldn't hurt to try.
 
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