X1650 pro and X1650 XT questions

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I just a few questions about the 1650s. I'm planning on getting a decent graphics card to tie me over to DX10, and I'm looking at these two to complement a 17 inch LCD display.

1) What are the price and performance difference between the X1650 pro and X1650XT?

2) Can they play today's games at medium - high resolution at 1280 * 1024?

3) I've seen several versions of the Pro:

-A Sapphire version that's underclocked with 256mb GDDR3.
-Several 512mb GDDR2 Models
-The 'standard' version that's clocked at about 600 with 256mb GDDR3.

I'm looking at the last version right now, but which one should I buy?

4) Does it performance match a stock 7600 GT or is it closer to a stock GTS?
 
AntiSocialMunky said:
I just a few questions about the 1650s. I'm planning on getting a decent graphics card to tie me over to DX10, and I'm looking at these two to complement a 17 inch LCD display.

1) What are the price and performance difference between the X1650 pro and X1650XT?

2) Can they play today's games at medium - high resolution at 1280 * 1024?

3) I've seen several versions of the Pro:

-A Sapphire version that's underclocked with 256mb GDDR3.
-Several 512mb GDDR2 Models
-The 'standard' version that's clocked at about 600 with 256mb GDDR3.

I'm looking at the last version right now, but which one should I buy?

4) Does it performance match a stock 7600 GT or is it closer to a stock GTS?
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X1650 Pro and X1650 XT are completely different cards. X1650 Pro is basically the same as X1600 XT, and is not a great card. Roughly as fast as 6600 GT or so. X1650 XT, on the other hand, is based on the X1950 Pro, and outperforms the 7600 GT significantly. Stupid, I know. Blame ATI's marketing department.
 
snefan said:
i have an Xt and i can tell you. it cant do that :p
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You have an X1600 XT. He's asking about the X1650 XT which, despite the similarity in naming, is in a whole 'nother league in terms of performance. From what I understand, X1650 XT should be able to do that res easily, if they ever get around to releasing the damn thing. :)
 
AntiSocialMunky said:
what about 1024 x 786?
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1024x768 is a lower resolution then 1280x1024, which means that they're less pixels to display... so if it can do 1280x1024, then it could do 1024x768
 
arthur_tuxedo said:
You have an X1600 XT. He's asking about the X1650 XT which, despite the similarity in naming, is in a whole 'nother league in terms of performance. From what I understand, X1650 XT should be able to do that res easily, if they ever get around to releasing the damn thing. :)
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Cool, I thought he might have meant the X1600XT. I know what you mean, ATI's so crap with product releases some times... does anyone know of any places that it's popped up at the $150 amount?
 
From what I have observed:

1) The X1650 PRO = X1600 XT. It is on-par with the GeForce 7600 GS. The X1650 XT = "new", and is not actually based on X1600 silicon. It is roughly equivalent in performance to a GeForce 7600 GT.

2) Mostly, yes. Some, no.

3) Get 256 MB of GDDR3 if you can find it. 512 MB will do you absolutely no good on a card like this.

4) See #1.

The gentlemen who stated that the X1650 XT outperforms the 7600 GT "significantly" has been misinformed. I don't know if it is based on X1950 PRO silicon, but the X1650 XT performance is very close to the X1800 GTO and almost dead even with the GeForce 7600 GT.

EDIT:

It is possible that the X1650 XT shows significant gains over the GeForce 7600 GT in synthetic benchmarks, but in terms of gameplay performance, it is very very close in both performance and image quality.
 
Shows how much I know. Next time I'll come straight to [H] for my reviews. :D But the moral of the story remains the same, consider getting the X1650 XT, don't consider getting the X1650 Pro or X1600 XT.
 
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