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Half-life 2 video stress test out today on steam
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He didnt state clearly that this would be for everyone. So I'm guessing just the beta testers.
ehh i dont think so. he said they are using the bandwidth today for the VST instead of pre-loading hl2 because a lot of people were emailing him whether their pc could run hl2. you are thinking of CS:S beta, which has nothing to do with this operation
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I guess my ATi voucher will come in handy afterall, despite some users mocking people with them.
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can anyone get this?
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Looks like ATI/CZ users only.
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There are two files being released. I was talking about the source test, but since this thread is about the video test, I should have been more clear. Oops. 
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so where on steam will this vst be released?
will be interesting to see what speed differences 65.62 makes over 61.77 on hl2 engine.
will be interesting to see what speed differences 65.62 makes over 61.77 on hl2 engine.
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R1ckCa1n said:Or ATI paid Valve to release something showing a huge lead for them?
Really?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/graphics-cards-2004_26.html
See : http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/graphics_cards_1H-1004_charts/dx1ud_1600_pure.gif
and
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/graphics_cards_1H-1004_charts/dx1sf_1600_pure.gif
Looks like they need to pay some more. Clearly there is no huge lead going on.
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joecuddles said:
I agree, clearly with this definitive proof, there is no lead
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yeah i would agree, but also im pretty sure that the ati/hl2 bundle was met for when ati had their 9800xt card out when they were on top. now that the r420 core is far less efficent, nvidia has made things tight.joecuddles said:
Benchmarks shown just a few days ago suggest that the 6800 Ultra and X800XT PE are neck and neck except @ 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF where the X800XT PE has 7fps over the Ultra. This was a benchmark done on CS:S. I am fairly confident that the game will perform neck and neck on the Ultra and X800XT PE. The ultra oc's and extremes will perform MUCH higher than the X800XT PE in HL2 though. When HL2 supports SM 3.0 the 6800's will stomp on the X800's.
trudude said:
Fair statement and I agree. I really think both chips will perform great on HL2.. there won't be this huge difference like there was with Doom 3 (based on what we know about drivers and chipsets from the companies). However I do think any game that adds in SM3.0 will favor towards an Nvidia chipset later on.
But honestly.. barely much difference. Getting close to a release finally its nice.
I won't mention how much the 9800xt cost me in january too!
come on ati where R the killer drivers that will make this card I spent so much on, your flagship for HL2, outperform the rest!! even closer in fps
what's that? huh? ..........yea thought so! back 2 nvidia fer sher!
come on ati where R the killer drivers that will make this card I spent so much on, your flagship for HL2, outperform the rest!! even closer in fps
what's that? huh? ..........yea thought so! back 2 nvidia fer sher!
rancor said:
Wake up! The CS:Source does not represent HL2 gameplay. Look at the environment and maps to see they are no where close to what we will see in the actual HL2 game.
On a side note that 7 fps lead for the XT-PE will double if not triple with 1600 x 1200 @ 4X AA and 16X AF even on CS:Source
No. SM 3.0 offers more than a framerate increase. If Valve is smart they will enable some of the SM 3.0 features like Crytek is about to do. Such VDM and HDR. I think HDR is already in HL2 in SM 2.0 so who knows. As far as framerate increases with SM 3.0 goes I am willing to bet it will be much higher than 7fps.doh-nut said:
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R1ckCa1n said:
Wow, since you can predict the future so readily did you predict me rolling my eyes at you?
R1ckCa1n said:
LOL back to shader class 101, and the teacher is in.........
Tell me again how HDR works and why it will cause a slow down of 50% on nV cards. If ATi tries it it will cause a 75% or more slow down.
Lets see what different shaders does HL 2 use that CS doesn't?
Hmm of the bat from the screenshots I've seen. HL 2 uses more animated bump maps with Fresenal effects (similiar what ya saw in Doom 3 with thier rocket laucher and granades). Over all effect on nV cards in D3d is the same as ATi's....
More fresnel effects for HL 2's water..... Same thing as the other effect just directions animations......
Other then that all other shaders are the same. So where do you see the increase in speed for HL2? I don't see it at all, maybe you can point out some of the different shaders they are using in HL2 that they aren't using in CS.
They use the same bump mapping and normal mapping.
Xtasy0 said:
all that says is that its included with CS:S. no keyboard munching yet.
and furthermore here is why it will be released to everyone. CS:S has been pre-loaded for the majority of the testers who wanted it. so why would gabe delay the hl2 preload to save bandwidth if minimal bandwidth was to be used today? he delayed it because of the amount of traffic the benchmark is going to take up tonight.
and on another note this web page just popped up:
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/english.html
http://www.steampowered.com/marketing/hl2_preload/english.html
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Xtasy0 said:
The time for the eating of keyboards(and most likely flip flopping on arguments and being hypocrites) is when this test and HL2 ship and we actualy have results, anything before that is just unproved nonsense
Arguing over counter strike of all things is just pointless, why don't we start talking about regular CS benchmarks and Q3A benchmarks, where every card plays it great
rancor said:LOL back to shader class 101, and the teacher is in.........
Tell me again how HDR works and why it will cause a slow down of 50% on nV cards. If ATi tries it it will cause a 75% or more slow down.
Maybe you should study a bit more if you think the ps2.0 hdr effects in hl2 will be that taxing on either card.
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LOL who are you? Please continue with your analysis. And first off ps 2.0 HDR what are you talking about that would kill both cards.
Valve isn't using real HDR with ps 2.0. Come on now, at least do some research before you type crap like that.
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rancor said:
Where are you getting these percentage numbers from? Can you state any of your sources? Do you even have any?
SnakEyez187 said:
Go to MSDN developers site search for HDR, the white papers will link you to a diagram of HDR and how the graphics pipeline works with it. Now PS 3.0 it uses 2 passes. On PS 2.0 cards as much as 5 passes.
Also thats all theory, I've tested it with my engine and crytek's so thats practical, and there is a 50% drop on nV cards because of the second pass. ATi's cards not even worth mentioning....... Even though my engine is fast enough to do it on thier cards, our polygon limits drop to the 100,000's where it should be in the millions.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...de/advancedtopics/HDRLighting/HDRLighting.asp
AMDXPCottonFire22 said:
Nah... they will enable all new tech in time. Just when they release it will be another thing. Remember 3.0 on the NV40 didn't help the lead the R420 keeps with 2.0b in Far Cry.
I have a feeling we see 3dc and all the features of 2.0x before we see 3.0.