Asus Tuf 4090 - Artifacts in Control with MSAA enabled

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loafer87gt

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Hey guys! Finally got my 4090 installed and wow, what an upgrade from my old 3070!! Anyways, everything seems stable and runs great except for one game I've tried - Control. It doesn't matter if I have raytracing enabled or disabled, or have high or low settings, as soon as I enable DLSS or MSAA in this game I get these weird squares that float over my screen image. I would normally think these are artifacts, but everything other raytraced game (Cyberpunk, F1 2023, Diablo 4) all fun fine and artifact free. I also did a 10 minute Furmark test with the artifact scanner and there was no signs of issues. Could this be a game or driver related issue rather than a hardware one? I have even tried running the game in 640x480 at low details and I still get the weird cubes at those settings in which the GPU is only utilized about 5%. For reference, I am running the GamePass version of Control, on Windows 10 using the latest 552.22 drivers. Disabling MSAA or DLSS, I am able to run Control with everything maxed and all raytracing features enabled at just over 100 FPS with near 100% GPU load with no artifacts which leads me to believe it may be a software AA issue rather than a hardware one. Please put my mind at ease and tell me my card isn't pooched! Does anyone else have the Gamepass verion to test on their system?
 

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Your card is fine. It's obvious the issue is software based since it's just Control that exhibits this behavior.
 
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DooKey said:
Your card is fine. It's obvious the issue is software based since it's just Control that exhibits this behavior.
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I just read through the Steam forums, and it seams that others are having visual glitches with MSAA or DLSS enabled when running DX12. The Gamepass option doesn't give an option which render to use, but maybe it defaults to DX12? Anyways, I'm not going to worry too much as it seems like others are having a number of problems with visuals glitches with the Ultimate edition.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/8707...049513782745323&include_deleted=1&q=artifacts
 
pendragon1 said:
look in the apps list for repair in the advanced options. or just dont uses those, dont really need them.
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I tried installing the Epic Store version I owned as well, and it has the same issues. Strangely, if you run the game in DX11, the artifacts show as white boxes. Same thing, runs fine with MSAA or DLSS off, but glitches with these features enabled. As everything else seems to be running great, I'm going to right it off as a driver or software glitch. I saw that several users were having visually identical artifacts with Flight Simulator using the 500 series Nvidia drivers, and the fix for that was to revert to an earlier driver or use Inspector to disable TILED_CACHE for the application. There's a whole thread about the issue here. I'm going to just keep an eye for any artifacts appearing in other apps, otherwise I'm not going to lose much sleep about it. Thanks for all of your help!

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/strange-artifacts-post-su5/426969/94
 
GoldenTiger said:
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Reading this thread makes me glad that I didn't update my drivers for my 4070S, since I decided to replay Control because I upgraded to the Ultimate Edition a long time ago.
On 551.61 and have none of that weird shit going on @ 4K DLSS w/max settings & RT.
 
Just an update: I was replaying Red Dead Redemption 2 and found I have the same dithered / checkered squares that float over the display regardless of graphics settings. :( Things I have tried: Reverting back to the earlier 530 series drivers, under-volting my 4090, installing the Asus GPU Tweak app and reducing the GPU and memory clock speeds as low as they will go. Doing all these things these floating squares still persist in Control and Red Dead Redemption 2. Any other things I should check? It's weird as other games like Cyberpunk maxed out in Raytrace Overdrive work flawlessly. My PC is also stable, and shows no sign of artifacting with the Furmark stress test. Below is a video of the artifacts in action. You can see them on the darker shore area above the water on the left side of the video.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7a6c...7.01.mp4?rlkey=8w2anps2vpdqsa3u29bzkry56&dl=0
 
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pendragon1 said:
looks like you did everything but lower settings....
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I did try lowering the in game settings in RDR2, and even at the low preset the artifacts persist. In Control, it is quite strange as I can run 4k with everything maxed out artifact free until I enable AA or DLSS which cause the square artifacts to appear again. In Control, running the lowest preset with any AA or DLSS shows the artifacts too.
 
loafer87gt said:
I did try lowering the in game settings in RDR2, and even at the low preset the artifacts persist. In Control, it is quite strange as I can run 4k with everything maxed out artifact free until I enable AA or DLSS which cause the square artifacts to appear again.
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its not artifacts from the gpu its one of the settings. i had it but havent touch rdr is over a year so cant remember exactly which it was. turn off any frame gen, or occlusion, maybe even the aa settings will do it.
 
loafer87gt said:
I did try lowering the in game settings in RDR2, and even at the low preset the artifacts persist. In Control, it is quite strange as I can run 4k with everything maxed out artifact free until I enable AA or DLSS which cause the square artifacts to appear again. In Control, running the lowest preset with any AA or DLSS shows the artifacts too.
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I've been playing Control for about a week now DX12 (Steam Ultimate Edition) @ 4K with AA and DLSS and haven't seen any of the issues that you are describing.
Have you tried uninstalling your drivers using DDU?
 
pendragon1 said:
its not artifacts from the gpu its one of the settings. i had it but havent touch rdr is over a year so cant remember exactly which it was. turn off any frame gen, or occlusion, maybe even the aa settings will do it.
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While looking for possible fixes or others with the same problem, it seems that some people running the "render resolution" setting at anything other than 100% saw similar artifacts. Things I have tried in game, enabling and disabling DLSS, AMD Fidelity, TSAA, MSAA, FXAA, and the artifacts show with all of the AA options on or off. One thing that is interesting that enabling TSAA blurs the artifacts to the point they are barely noticeable. I have also tried both Vulkan and DX12 and the issue is there with both. I think my next step is to try a different Display Port cable and also try HDMI to remove the possible of a monitor signal issue from the trouble shooting equation. If that doesn't fix I might call my local computer shop and see if they have another 4090 they can try installing to see if the issue persists with it. If it does, at least I know it's not a problem with the card itself. These little issues can be so frustrating for someone borderline OCD when it comes to the machine running without issues. lol
 
loafer87gt said:
While looking for possible fixes or others with the same problem, it seems that some people running the "render resolution" setting at anything other than 100% saw similar artifacts. Things I have tried in game, enabling and disabling DLSS, AMD Fidelity, TSAA, MSAA, FXAA, and the artifacts show with all of the AA options on or off. One thing that is interesting that enabling TSAA blurs the artifacts to the point they are barely noticeable. I have also tried both Vulkan and DX12 and the issue is there with both. I think my next step is to try a different Display Port cable and also try HDMI to remove the possible of a monitor signal issue from the trouble shooting equation. If that doesn't fix I might call my local computer shop and see if they have another 4090 they can try installing to see if the issue persists with it. If it does, at least I know it's not a problem with the card itself. These little issues can be so frustrating for someone borderline OCD when it comes to the machine running without issues. lol
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I've seen weird issues with cheap HDMI cables and DVI to HDMI converters, but they were usually rolling horizontal lines and snowy static, not the squares that you are describing.
But cables "on their way out" can do some weird things. Couldn't hurt to switch them out if you have more.
 
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