Big Beta Kaput?

theGryphon said:
I got my first 8101 after a long time. I don't know if it's a server thing or if we really depleted the 690X stock, but it's OK for me either way.

I can only hope that this won't turn off (m)any folders in this team or elsewhere...
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Off, probably not.

Slow the 4P growth..... prolly.
 
Grabbed an 8101 here as well, which really sux as i only have my 5640 rig running at the moment and its too slow to complete in time, Oh well back to SMP for now
 
I hope it's not the case but it seems like the 690X's are done - I'm getting nothing but 8101s on my 2p and 4p boxes.
 
They're not completely gone. I did get a 6904 on my 970 yesterday. Apparently they're only being released to 12 "core" machines at this time. Had a 8101 drop this am, so i'll find out what my 4P picked up in a few hours after I get out of work.
 
tear said:
Resistance is futile...
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That is a totally ironic response coming from you, in this thread. Considering you're one of the leaders of the underground resistance, if you know what I mean ;)
 
Not sure what is happening with 8101 but they seem to be getting faster, tpf is currently 2 minutes lower on Hood than they were before I shut down just over 3 weeks ago, and the current one is faster than the last one i uploaded yesterday. I was at 110k PPD, now i'm currently rocking 125k
 
Nathan_P said:
Not sure what is happening with 8101 but they seem to be getting faster, tpf is currently 2 minutes lower on Hood than they were before I shut down just over 3 weeks ago, and the current one is faster than the last one i uploaded yesterday. I was at 110k PPD, now i'm currently rocking 125k
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Shhh do not speak to loudly and wake it up. The 8101's have wide variations in TPF they are unlike the 69xx series where the variation was usually within a minute one way or the other. I have seen variations of up to 5 min so far on the 8101's 2 1/2 min either side of 0.

Like I said do not talk too loudly and wake it up the next one could be a couple of min south of 0 rather than North of it.
 
Just outta curiosity, if the 690x units are really gone, will a 2P 6176 still do an 8101 on time?
 
No reason why 6176 shouldn't make it. Hope this helps. Here are my 2P numbers.

Asus KGPE-D16
Opteron 6174 @2.2
RipjawsX 1333 7-7-7-21 @9-9-9-24

Code: 
Project ID: 8101 
Core: GRO-A5 
Credit: 22607 
 
Min. Time / Frame : 00:26:36 - 126,616.3 PPD 
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:27:08 - 122,901.6 PPD 
 
 
Project ID: 6901 
Core: GRO-A5 
Credit: 8597 
 
Min. Time / Frame : 00:11:52 - 144,635.6 PPD 
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:12:42 - 130,635.9 PPD 
 
 
Project ID: 6903 
Core: GRO-A5 
Credit: 22706 
 
Min. Time / Frame : 00:28:45 - 171,986.9 PPD 
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:29:49 - 162,841.0 PPD 
 
 
Project ID: 6904 
Core: GRO-A5 
Credit: 31541 
 
Min. Time / Frame : 00:38:57 - 178,564.5 PPD 
Avg. Time / Frame : 00:39:15 - 176,521.2 PPD


***Been missing here for a while. Had all intentions of building a 4P or two to help overtake EVGA but had to replace both of my A/C units so all of my 4P budget has been depleted.
 
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SM H8DGU-F w/ 2x 6176SE at stock 2.3Ghz

Code: 
 Project ID: 8101
 Core: GRO-A5
 Credit: 22607
 Frames: 100


 Name: Amd2P
 Path: http://amd2P/
 Number of Frames Observed: 191

 Min. Time / Frame : 00:26:41 - 126,024 PPD
 Avg. Time / Frame : 00:27:04 - 123,356 PPD
 Cur. Time / Frame : 00:26:51 - 124,809 PPD
 R3F. Time / Frame : 00:26:51 - 124,809 PPD
 All  Time / Frame : 00:26:50 - 124,890 PPD
 Eff. Time / Frame : 00:26:52 - 124,728 PPD

I did a quick check on HFM point calculator and big point drop off with TPF over 34m 45sec
 
My 48 core rig hasn't done anything other than P8101 for the last 10+ WU's. I've tried both the -bigadv and -bigbeta flags.
 
Pretty much only 8101's for me the past two weeks or so. Though one of my 2P's did get a 6097 this morning.
 
bowlinra said:
I did a quick check on HFM point calculator and big point drop off with TPF over 34m 45sec
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The preferred deadline is 2.4 days, so at a 27m frame average, you'll finish it in about 45 hours, leaving 12.6 hours to upload before the qrb points go away.
 
Carbon_Rod said:
Just outta curiosity, if the 690x units are really gone, will a 2P 6176 still do an 8101 on time?
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You'll be fine with 2x 6176 procs. I run a 2P ASUS with a couple of 6168's and make the deadline fine.
 
For the last 3 weeks, all my G34 rigs just got down the P8101, not a single 690x has come down during this time. As I understand it only 12 core machines can fold 690x WUs in the future, or as long as they last.

I have set my SR2 with 2 x Xeon 5645 running at 3.6GHz to boot with HT disable, so this is folding only 690x WU for the moment. I chose to do this to bring down the heat and get it to run stable at 3.6GHz. If I choose to run the SR2 with HT enable and the 8101 I must clock down to 3.5GHz to get it stable. I can not in any way interpret this as cheating, but I have seen that some believe this to be just that.

To fold for the folding@home is a voluntary task that only involves nothing but costs for me as a donor, and I must therefore allow me to do the task the most affordable manner for my self. I would really want to fold the 690x on my G34 rigs as well, but since this option is blocked on the work server, I choose to let them fold the 8101 only. I do not like it because of the heat and the wear on my servers. The alternative is to shut them down, or fold the standard smp, but I choose to let them fold the damned 8101 for as long as it take.

When I try to write about this at the folding forum I was censored in the way that my messages was deleted. As a result I choose to keep away from the folding forum over at Stanford.
 
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-alias-, I would not consider what you did on your SR-2 as doing anything wrong, but I don't manage (nor want to) FAH policy. I view what you have done solely as a hardware change that is your privilege to do so (no software tricks being implemented). What you are doing is basically the same as I do by enabling HT on my 980X. If I don't enable HT, I don't get a 6904. If adjusting HT so that a person has a chance of receiving a 6904 is a problem, then all Hexacore HT rigs would be in violation. Not a problem to me...:D
 
-alias- said:
When I try to write about this at the folding forum I was censored in the way that my messages was deleted. As a result I choose to keep away from the folding forum over at Stanford.
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The official FF are not a friendly place. I don't go there much at all, so I can not be sure, but I think it is filled with asshats.
 
Yeh, the only reason I go there is for the DAB.

Everything I need to get my folding on is right here.
 
Pocatello said:
The official FF are not a friendly place. I don't go there much at all, so I can not be sure, but I think it is filled with asshats.
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There are good mod(s) there that will help you if you have a legit wu problem...
But for most of my problems I stay local unless I have narrowed it down to a Wu problem.

Currently 1 asshat + good lass has banished the biggest asshat for a day... we shall see if the problems start decreasing and it become more friendly overall.
 
I venture over there to try and keep abreast of whats going on, most of the users are fine, but as patriot says there are a couple of asshats over there who get away with anything and are rude to allcomers.
 
Lets try keeping to the topic guys - this isnt a thread for grief about FF.
 
Looks like some of these 8101's are taking longer and longer to process. My dual E5645 didn't complete the last one before the preferred deadline - so I guess no bonus points for that one. Wonder if I'd be better off just running regular SMP on that box.
 
tkam said:
Looks like some of these 8101's are taking longer and longer to process. My dual E5645 didn't complete the last one before the preferred deadline - so I guess no bonus points for that one. Wonder if I'd be better off just running regular SMP on that box.
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Turn HT off. That will bring you to 12 threads and you should be able to get the 690x WU.
 
tkam said:
Looks like some of these 8101's are taking longer and longer to process. My dual E5645 didn't complete the last one before the preferred deadline - so I guess no bonus points for that one. Wonder if I'd be better off just running regular SMP on that box.
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I would, i get about 50k PPD out of my dual L5640 box, it misses the deadlines on 8101 by a wide margin. The last test that someone did reported that at least x5650 cpu's were needed to make the deadline reliably. even x5670's only have about 8 hours spare
 
I just brought another 48 cores online between 2 boxes:)
 
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