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Rest assured, higher freq parts are definitely in the pipelines
We are working hard on it That's all I can say at the moment. Meanwhile, I will just sit back and amuse myself with all the the doom and gloomBut will they ever leave the 'pipeline' and see the light of day at speeds that matter ?? Doubtful at the moment...
Now this is hot !
We are working hard on it That's all I can say at the moment. Meanwhile, I will just sit back and amuse myself with all the the doom and gloom
And so is yours.You dont have any evidence that it is not true. As a matter of fact it is common knowledgs that AMD has already claimed 40% improvement. 25% is really, really, very, very conservative. You should thank him for being realistic. In the mean time he has evidence you do not.
All I hear from you is "I want!!!! I want!!!! I WANT!!!!!!!!!" In the real world that'll get you nothing real quick.
We ? Do you then work at AMDati ? In what capacity if you dont mind asking ?
Absolutely it does.Does it really matter?
Wow, imagine someone asking for an additional post with further information on a forum! You are absolutely correct, how dare I want more posts with meaningful information.
We are working hard on it That's all I can say at the moment. Meanwhile, I will just sit back and amuse myself with all the the doom and gloom
But will they ever leave the 'pipeline' and see the light of day at speeds that matter ?? Doubtful at the moment...
Now this is hot !
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/JIN-ROH/5257_large_amd_barcelona.jpg
Yes. On the engineering side is all I will say.We ? Do you then work at AMDati ? In what capacity if you dont mind asking ?
You asking me? See below.does Barcelona currently experiencing Thermal/Power issues? The one who interviewed me in AMD Singapore was asking this.
Might as well be I can't talk about anything that is not already available publicly. The whole legality thing and allWell according to an unnamed source Intel is going to release there next CPU based off of a Jelly Bellys. AMD is leaving the Semiconductor industry to focus on there soda pop.
It was publicly released by AMD.Where did you get that picture from.
AMD is leaving the Semiconductor industry to focus on there soda pop.
AMD QuadCore at 2.3GHz bests Clovertown at 2.66 GHz (Xeon 5355) by 21% in integer (SPECint_rate2006) and a staggering 50% in fp (SPECfp_rate2006).
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40749
Someone with the time and a calculator handy care to estimate how a 2.0GHz K10 will fair against the 2.66GHz Xeon?
Edit:
Just a off the top of my head estimation: 2.0GHz is ~= 15% less than 2.3GHz. So, it seems as though, at least for the two spec_rate benchmarks, (and only if this actually ends up being true), a K10 @ 2.0GHz will beat, or at least match, the Xeon 5355, with a 660MHz clock delta; wow.
Well, sure. If it isn't true, it isn't impressive. I do wonder why Theo would say 2.3GHz if it is well known that the actual speed is 2.6GHz, though.
Does it really matter?
Where did you get that picture from.
Bleh. As much of an AMD fan as I am, I stopped caring about Barcelona after the schedule kept slipping on EVERYTHING.
AMD hasn't introduced anything on-time in the last year.
65nm Athlon 64s were late and disappointing: you get a small improvement in clock speed and power consumption, but in-turn you get a small reduction in performance due to high-latency cache.
R600 was REALLY late, and a relative failure when you consider just how much money went into it.
Barcelona has slipped several times, in the release date, clock speed AND performance categories. The best part is, AMD is pulling a fast one regarding availability at the release date, releasing to servers first and leaving enthusiasts waiting for months.
Now, to distract the press, AMD is talking bullshit about their panacea, a new mobile core that is simply a tweaked Turion X2. They somehow think they can compete purely on efficiency, when Intel already has a whole line of low-voltage Core 2 Duos with power consumption under 20w. Havn't they been paying attention the last five years, while Transmetta went out of the CPU business, and Via made only tiny CPU market gains? For most people, performance sells!
I've been waiting the whole year for AMD to do something RIGHT, and I'm still here waiting. Now, I'm just contemplating how long they will take before they IMPLODE due to their own incompetence.
Theo got his "new" info from http://vd.verysell.ru/files/ie/252_10_DOCUMENT_Server_Section_PUBLIC.ppt around slide 70. He confused hisself.
How do you reckon that AMD says 2.6GHz http://multicore.amd.com/us-en/AMD-Multi-Core/Products/Barcelona/Performance.aspx with 21% advantage yet his 2.3GHz scores are also 21%?
And.. http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/res2007q2/cpu2006-20070612-01275.html http://www.spec.org/cpu2006/results/res2007q2/cpu2006-20070528-01175.html
And if anyone is impressed by the 2.3GHz scores from INQ, X-bit, you shouldn't be http://tweakers.net/reviews/661
AMDs claim that they have a 20% clock-for-clock advantage with Barcelona is simply wrong. Based on the latest certified SPEC.org results, AMD has a little more than a 1% clock-for-clock performance advantage in a dual-socket 8-core Server configuration but they have 50% clock speed deficit when the Barcelona finally launches in September. That means Barcelona will not be the Intel quad-core killer that AMD has been promising for most of this year and it wont even be close.
The deception doesnt end with the quad-cores; AMD is also claiming to have an advantage on dual-core processors when in fact they have a major performance deficit. AMD claims to have a 2.5% advantage when Intel actually has a 14.7% advantage when youre looking at the certified SPEC.org scores.
Ive seen benchmarks get cherry picked and twisted before but this is just outrageous. AMD is deliberately leaving out Intels best scores, leaving out Intels best products that shipped months ago, and putting in theoretical Barcelona scores for products that dont even have a ship date. After Henri Richard (AMD executive) came in front of our ZDNet cameras to slam Intel for un-ethical behavior and promising not to do the same, we have caught them on four separate occasions behaving unethically. After this latest incident, its clear that AMD has no intention of behaving honestly or ethically.
And now we have more people weighing in. Not looking too rosy for AMD at the moment.
Intel wins all benchmarks throughout this document by a significant margin mostly because it always compares FOUR Xeon cores with TWO Opteron cores, while failing to make this explicitly clear to the non-specialized reader.
You guys never add anything to the discussion. All you know how to do is thread crap, flame and bash. Why is this so clear? You didn't even read my post. If you had, you would see a "~" in front of 25%. Guess what that means? It means, "about" 25%. Go back to school, or better yet, don't bash people if you can't even be troubled to read their posts.
Further, if you bothered to read my only post in this thread, you would see me say, "IF this is true". Followed by a call for actuall benchmarks. Again, WTF? Why is it that all the members on this forum can't do anything but thread crap and flame? My post was filled with the correct qualifiers, and also filled with calls for actual benchmarks upon product release. If calling for actual data is being a fanb0i, then I don't think words can adequately describe your horrible behavior.
what socket is the barcelona going to be in ? I currently have a dual 1207 (socket f) motherboard and would love to rock one of theses . I have two 2222's on my current maching and would love to replace them with two barcelonas.
No, by AM2+ (faster HT) and AM3 (DDR3).so is am2 slowly going to be phased out by 1207?
Which motherboard? You don't need thousands. The first Barcelona Opterons won't be that expensive. The quad-socket capable Barcelonas is another matter.I have dual f sockets all I need is a couple of thousand and I will probably run the best damn AMD machine