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I'm going to predict, since I was right last time and this is based on no information, same PPD as GPU for PS3- 660 PPD.

Based on that, would you buy one?
 
marty9876 said:
I'm going to predict, since I was right last time and this is based on no information, same PPD as GPU for PS3- 660 PPD.

Based on that, would you buy one?
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Even 660 PPD would be a helluva deal. You couldn't put together a PC for under $500 that could produce that.
 
Viper87227 said:
Even 660 PPD would be a helluva deal. You couldn't put together a PC for under $500 that could produce that.
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Sure you can....just wait until quadcore hits and watch the prices drop on the C2D's

Not to mention, aren't the PS3s supposed to be well north of $500?
 
Can you watch porn on a PS3?

Hey, you could with the HD DVD thing! That's the intersting part for me, cheapest HD DVD player on the market I think. Please correct if wrong.
 
AtomicMoose said:
Sure you can....just wait until quadcore hits and watch the prices drop on the C2D's

Not to mention, aren't the PS3s supposed to be well north of $500?
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the whole box? be close maybe.

I thought 400 and 500 bucks was retail
 
marty9876 said:
Can you watch porn on a PS3?

Hey, you could with the HD DVD thing! That's the intersting part for me, cheapest HD DVD player on the market I think. Please correct if wrong.
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BluRay... :) You are wrong...
 
Jeez, some of you need to get out into other parts of the forum and keep up with stuff... ;)

On that note, anyone see G80 is supposed to be able to fold, guess that should be another thread though.
 
Sure they can be "HD" in the quality but when u said HD DVD it makes me think of that new format HD DVD and not the term "HD"



 
I should just keep my mouth shut... but there's already HD pr0n out.

PM for details ;)
 
unhappy_mage said:
I should just keep my mouth shut... but there's already HD pr0n out.

PM for details ;)
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which one you got? one I have not so good.
 
Viper87227 said:
Even 660 PPD would be a helluva deal. You couldn't put together a PC for under $500 that could produce that.
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Doesnt it cost closer to 600 bucks?
If so, yes you could, Sempron/Celeron system w/ X1900XTX would be under 600 bucks. Would only be able to run GPU core but would get the same 20-40X performance as the CPU core for about the same price as a PS3. Plus you can upgrade the graphics card later on if you wanted, use it as network attached storage, etc. (and put that x1900xtx to good use gaming in its second life.. or ebay it.. either or.)
 
kaleb_zero said:
Doesnt it cost closer to 600 bucks?
If so, yes you could, Sempron/Celeron system w/ X1900XTX would be under 600 bucks. Would only be able to run GPU core but would get the same 20-40X performance as the CPU core for about the same price as a PS3. Plus you can upgrade the graphics card later on if you wanted, use it as network attached storage, etc. (and put that x1900xtx to good use gaming in its second life.. or ebay it.. either or.)
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I agree.

Plus, the Xbox and the PS2 and the PS3 don't work very reliably. Designed to work best when turned off and looking pretty. Not designed to be powered on 24/7.
 
Pocatello said:
I agree.

Plus, the Xbox and the PS2 and the PS3 don't work very reliably. Designed to work best when turned off and looking pretty. Not designed to be powered on 24/7.
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How many PS3's you have running? I don't get mine till the 21st
 
marty9876 said:
I'm going to predict, since I was right last time and this is based on no information, same PPD as GPU for PS3- 660 PPD.

Based on that, would you buy one?
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You will get One "Gummipunkt" if you are correct.
 
kaleb_zero said:
Doesnt it cost closer to 600 bucks?
If so, yes you could, Sempron/Celeron system w/ X1900XTX would be under 600 bucks. Would only be able to run GPU core but would get the same 20-40X performance as the CPU core for about the same price as a PS3. Plus you can upgrade the graphics card later on if you wanted, use it as network attached storage, etc. (and put that x1900xtx to good use gaming in its second life.. or ebay it.. either or.)
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PS3 has $500 and $600 models. If it's just folding, you don't need the bigger hard drive and better media capability of the $600 version. So, $500 it is... for a complete ready to rock folding setup.

For a PC, its $300 for the GPU, and another $120 lets say for a cheap semp/mobo combo. Already your at $420 and still need to take care of ram, psu, hard drive, cd-roms if desired, OS (though that can be had free), case. You could run naked and diskless, but at the bare mimimum your still looking at $40 or so for ram, and atleast $80+ for a PSU reliable enough to power an X1900XT. Right there your lookign at $540 or so. As it stands, PS3 would be cheaper, smaller, and quite possibly much better for science (maybe not point wise, but it may still be doing more work that the GPU is capable of... I am not sure what sort of output the PS3 is capable of, but I remember hearing it was alot). You loose the upgradability, but it would be a great fold and forget machine, assuming it was stable enough to run the client 24/7 without issue.

Everything is total speculation, but I stand by my prediction. At the $500 price point, the PS3 is going to be the best folding option by a long shot.
 
Viper87227 said:
PS3 has $500 and $600 models. If it's just folding, you don't need the bigger hard drive and better media capability of the $600 version. So, $500 it is... for a complete ready to rock folding setup.

For a PC, its $300 for the GPU, and another $120 lets say for a cheap semp/mobo combo. Already your at $420 and still need to take care of ram, psu, hard drive, cd-roms if desired, OS (though that can be had free), case. You could run naked and diskless, but at the bare mimimum your still looking at $40 or so for ram, and atleast $80+ for a PSU reliable enough to power an X1900XT. Right there your lookign at $540 or so. As it stands, PS3 would be cheaper, smaller, and quite possibly much better for science (maybe not point wise, but it may still be doing more work that the GPU is capable of... I am not sure what sort of output the PS3 is capable of, but I remember hearing it was alot). You loose the upgradability, but it would be a great fold and forget machine, assuming it was stable enough to run the client 24/7 without issue.

Everything is total speculation, but I stand by my prediction. At the $500 price point, the PS3 is going to be the best folding option by a long shot.
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Upgradability is a huge thing though, and I'd trust my own built PC GPU-folding setup to run 24/7 alot more than a PS3. As for scientific work, The x1900xt already beats the PS3's cell processor in performance (see image below, note GFLOPs values - X1900XT=500GFLOPs peak, CELL=220GFLOPs peak, so x1900xt > Cell).

Not to mention the X1900XTX. Plus with R600 just around the corner, you'll probably be looking at another jump in performance & points - so upgradability is a huge factor, worth the extra ~100 bucks (over the $500 version of the PS3) that said setup would cost you (and no, i wouldnt need an optical drive for a dedicated folding box).

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All that being said, I do think that the more platforms that are brought into the project, the better it is for the science. So, GPU or PS3 or CPU, all for one, one for all, fold on! (And now there's actually three of them, three musketeers) :p
 
kaleb_zero said:
Upgradability is a huge thing though, and I'd trust my own built PC GPU-folding setup to run 24/7 alot more than a PS3. As for scientific work, The x1900xt already beats the PS3's cell processor in performance (see image below, note GFLOPs values - X1900XT=500GFLOPs peak, CELL=220GFLOPs peak, so x1900xt > Cell).

Not to mention the X1900XTX. Plus with R600 just around the corner, you'll probably be looking at another jump in performance & points - so upgradability is a huge factor, worth the extra ~100 bucks (over the $500 version of the PS3) that said setup would cost you (and no, i wouldnt need an optical drive for a dedicated folding box).

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All that being said, I do think that the more platforms that are brought into the project, the better it is for the science. So, GPU or PS3 or CPU, all for one, one for all, fold on! (And now there's actually three of them, three musketeers) :p
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Where did you get that picture from?

I can't find it anywhere on the site? Any direct link i can go to? thanks.
 
It was in the slide show released by stanford when the GPU client press conference was out. It was posted in this forum, one sec I'll find a link to the thread:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1104427

It's one of the slides in there, I'd remembered seeing the GFLOPs ratings there so I thought I'd pull them up again to backup my stand on GPU vs. PS3 in terms of scientific/computational power. :p
 
marty9876 said:
I'm going to predict, since I was right last time and this is based on no information, same PPD as GPU for PS3- 660 PPD.

Based on that, would you buy one?
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YES

PPD, I think you're wrong....the cell processor. PS3 aside, is capable of incredible calculations.....IBM is selling these for like 20k a pop .

PPD some where between GPU & SMP...but maybe higher
 
the cell may be more versatile than the GPU when it comes to floating point operations. Also, the peak value doesn't mean that it's achieve all the time.
 
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