Q: all about 1080i / 1080p

[diefathin]

Please read all of the questions befre poll, and please explain after the poll, thanks
Xbox 360 supported outputing 1080p (not elite)? <-- outputing ture 1080p
1. yes
2. no
1920*1080 = 1080p they are the same?
3. ture
4. false
Vga cable supported 1080p output?
5. yes
6. no
DVD can output 1080p on gaming images?
7. ture
8. false
DVD can output 1080p on movies?
9. yes
10. false

 

[Pkirk618]

wtf over!

I'm not gonna lie, even after reading that, I'm scared to offer a quality click.

I will say 1080p all the way but that probably means nothing to you.

 

[diefathin]

We usually talk about 1080p 1080p....
we should know more..... right?
thank for the reply

 

[dmanrevived]

Please read all of the questions befre poll, and please explain after the poll, thanks
Xbox 360 supported outputing 1080p (not elite)? <-- outputing ture 1080p
1. yes
2. no
1920*1080 = 1080p they are the same?
3. ture
4. false
Vga cable supported 1080p output?
5. yes
6. no
DVD can output 1080p on gaming images?
7. ture
8. false
DVD can output 1080p on movies?
9. yes
10. false

The 360 non-elite does output 1080p, over both VGA and component (but most HDTV's don't accept 1080p over component).

1920*1080 is the number of pixels required to display true 1080p, but 1080i can also spit out an image of 1920*1080. The difference in p and i is how the image is refreshed over all those pixels.

VGA does support 1080p output.

Your last two questions are kind of weird. A DVD itself is only a storage medium. You can store whatever you want on it. I guess DVD's can "output" 1080p on gaming images because the 360 and PS3 games are on DVD's now and both consoles are capable of 1080p. DVD's don't really "output" 1080p for movies since all the HD movies are on next-gen formats. I don't know if they "can" because there's probably some copyright/hardware restriction on DVD players that don't let them output 1080p from DVD.

 

[diefathin]

About the DVD, How come it can not output 1080p on moives, "but " it can handle 1080p gaming image. this is the one i could not understand

also

VGA is non HDCP, how can it support 1080p ?

also

i saw a lot of TV can not go to 1920*1080
but it can input 1080p.... are you guys think it is not same?


thanks for the reply!~

 

[MrMike]

About the DVD, How come it can not output 1080p on moives, "but " it can handle 1080p gaming image. this is the one i could not understand

because DVDs are just a storage medium. It has to do with the device and what is on the medium.

VGA is non HDCP, how can it support 1080p ?

1080p is just a resolution. HDCP has to do with content protection.

 

[SuperKeijo]

About the DVD, How come it can not output 1080p on moives, "but " it can handle 1080p gaming image. this is the one i could not understand

I do not understand what you do not understand. DVD is a STORAGE MEDIUM just like someone allready said. It's 4,7 or 9,5 GB of data. It doesn't have anything to do with being or not being able to output 1080p. However, MPEG 2 (the usual DVD movie format) can be used for 1920 x 1080 resolution video. You can even put say, a WMV packed 1080p movie on a DVD or any other data you please. Different thing is what you'll be able to view it with. An average DVD player propably won't support MPEG 2 video at 1920 x 1080.

VGA is non HDCP, how can it support 1080p ?

This is also another weird ass question. HDCP is a copy protection system that you'll need viewing hdcp protected material over digital connection on both the device you're viewing it with and the display. It has nothing to do with what resolution a VGA connection is or isn't capable of outputting. VGA is an analog input method that's been around much longer than HDCP protection, and it has been capable of 1920x1080 progressive resolutions for ages.

i saw a lot of TV can not go to 1920*1080
but it can input 1080p....

They can input 1080p but scale it down to the TV:s native resolution (most likely 1366x768)

do you gays think it is not same?

HAHHAHHH

 

[okashira]

HAHHAHHH

Did he actually say that? ROFLMAO!!! that is the funniest thing I have read on this forum. HAHAHAHAHA...

diefathin, your questions indicate you have... no idea what you are even asking. Do more research, goto school, think, read, learn more... before you ask anymore questions..


lol....

 

[SuperKeijo]

Did he actually say that? ROFLMAO!!!

Check the 5. post

 

[diefathin]

I do not understand what you do not understand. DVD is a STORAGE MEDIUM just like someone allready said. It's 4,7 or 9,5 GB of data. It doesn't have anything to do with being or not being able to output 1080p. However, MPEG 2 (the usual DVD movie format) can be used for 1920 x 1080 resolution video. You can even put say, a WMV packed 1080p movie on a DVD or any other data you please. Different thing is what you'll be able to view it with. An average DVD player propably won't support MPEG 2 video at 1920 x 1080.



This is also another weird ass question. HDCP is a copy protection system that you'll need viewing hdcp protected material over digital connection on both the device you're viewing it with and the display. It has nothing to do with what resolution a VGA connection is or isn't capable of outputting. VGA is an analog input method that's been around much longer than HDCP protection, and it has been capable of 1920x1080 progressive resolutions for ages.



They can input 1080p but scale it down to the TV:s native resolution (most likely 1366x768)



HAHHAHHH

frist, can you burn a DVD formated moives on a CD ?
Just using 5- 6 CDs? Do You think it will work? No. Each format disk has their requirement.

i did some research aleardy before i do this poll
DVD did not support 1080p moives, but i am not 100% sure .

1080p is a Digital signal, how can Vga can support 1080p

also

11 person answer my question

1920*1080 = 1080p they are the same?
3. ture 5
4. false 6
the results is so close !!!

Why, if i never do a reserach frist !! How can i find those importants question??

if DVD can support 1080p, than PS3 do not need a BD - rom on it
Then PS3 can go for a cheaper price!!
Yes, Sony want BD win HD DVD, beside that they are losing money on each PS3

 

[SuperKeijo]

frist, can you burn a DVD formated moives on a CD ?
Just using 5- 6 CDs? Do You think it will work? No. Each format disk has their requirement.

Well obviously you didn't do too much research before posting. You talked about DVD originally. NOT dvd FORMAT. DVD:s use MPEG 2 format. And yes, you can split a dvd movie into 5-6 cd:s maintaining the original mpeg 2 format if you want, using proper software. As said (for a million times) a dvd is just a medium. This is like asking does a hard disk drive support 1080p and can I split a 500GB disk's data into 5 100 GB ones? YES YOU CAN!!

1080p is a Digital signal, how can Vga can support 1080p

And what's so digital about it may I ask?

if DVD can support 1080p, than PS3 do not need a BD - rom on it

If your 100 GB hard disk drive can store porn on it then why the hell would anyone want a 500 GB drive? Bluray has 25 GB or 50 GB storage capacity (single layer and dual layer). That's quite alot more than DVD.

1920*1080 = 1080p they are the same?

1080p means 1920 x 1080 resolution uninterlaced (progressive =p). 1080i means 1920x1080 interlaced, thus requiring only half the bandwidth of 1080p.

 

[dmanrevived]

frist, can you burn a DVD formated moives on a CD ?
Just using 5- 6 CDs? Do You think it will work? No. Each format disk has their requirement.

i did some research aleardy before i do this poll
DVD did not support 1080p moives, but i am not 100% sure .

1080p is a Digital signal, how can Vga can support 1080p

also

11 person answer my question

1920*1080 = 1080p they are the same?
3. ture 5
4. false 6
the results is so close !!!

Why, if i never do a reserach frist !! How can i find those importants question??

if DVD can support 1080p, than PS3 do not need a BD - rom on it
Then PS3 can go for a cheaper price!!
Yes, Sony want BD win HD DVD, beside that they are losing money on each PS3

Okay, as I had already said and others agreed, a DVD is a storage medium only. You can burn whatever you want on it. It's just that DVD players are likely not designed to understand codecs that are HD.

1080p is just a signal, it can be digital or analog. Component and VGA can both do 1080p just fine.

Your question about 1920*1080 = 1080p is misleading. It's like saying Car Brand = Honda. Sure, Honda is a car brand, but a car brand can also be Toyota, etc. 1080p is a signal that has 1920*1080 resolution, but 1920*1080 resolution can also be 1080i.

I don't know what you're arguing about in the last bit about PS3 and Blu-ray. DVD's don't do HD movies because of the codec/player issue others have brought up already. Again, it's just a storage medium. I don't remember any off the top of my head, but there are 1080p games on DVD's.

 

[diefathin]

so you mean DVD is not a standard for 1080p, but it can output 1080p
and BD and HDdvd has a standard for 1080p

Vga can go to 1920 * 1080 resolution
do you mean it can do progressive ?

So any image have 1920 * 1080 resolution that can become 1080i or 1080p?
i am not thinking this way ........

1920 * 1080 = 1080p
1920 * 1080 is a resolution it is no HD standard!!

1080p is a HD standard and requrement !!

 

[SuperKeijo]

so you mean DVD is not a standard for 1080p, but it can output 1080p
and BD and HDdvd has a standard for 1080p

Okay, lets say this one more time, since it hasn't been said allready. DVD IS A STANDARD FOR THE MEDIA. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU STORE IN IT!!!! And the same goes for bluray disk and hd-dvd. You can put 50 hours of sdv porn in them if you want.

Vga can go to 1920 * 1080 resolution
do you mean it can do progressive ?

Well what the hell else would it be? interlaced?

1920 * 1080 = 1080p
1920 * 1080 is a resolution it is no HD standard!!

1080p is a standard for the resolution AND the refresh rate method.

 

[joemama]

Did he actually say that? ROFLMAO!!! that is the funniest thing I have read on this forum. HAHAHAHAHA...

diefathin, your questions indicate you have... no idea what you are even asking. Do more research, goto school, think, read, learn more... before you ask anymore questions..


lol....

Very confusing I agree...but I'm going to just give him a benefit of a doubt and say he's not a native english speaker.

 

[diefathin]

yes, i am a international student in US.

You guys think this is a simple question???

did you View Poll Results?

all the questions has 50% of people chose yes and 50% of people chose no
you said dvd is just a storage medium, then tell me how come the result are so close.

result are so close, because most people do not care and do not know which one should be a right answer.
there had 50% of people is not sure the answer, Not just me!!
i care the answer and the fact and open the thread to discuss.
let more people can understand this things.
THE RESULT WILL BE MORE THAN 90%
it is not the thread for making fun at me!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

there have Analog TV standard and Digital TV standard
DVD 720 × 480 (NTSC) 4:3 or 16:9 (non-square pixels) 345,600, 720 × 576 (PAL) 414,720
HDTV, HD DVD, Blu-ray 720p 1280 × 720 16:9 921,600
HDTV, HD DVD, Blu-ray 1080p, 1080i 1920 × 1080 16:9 2,073,600

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDVD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:HighDefMediaComparison

also BD's reading speed is 5x fast than DVD
and HDdvd is 3x faster than DVD
______________________________________BD_______HDDVD______DVD
SD MPEG-2 at 5Mbit/s__________________22.2 hours__3.3 hours____3.8 hours
HD with AVC or VC-1 at 13Mbit/s_________ 8.5 hours __5.1 hours_____N/A
HD with MPEG-2 at 20Mbit/s _____________5.6 hours___3.3 hours_____N/A

if those people said that DVD just a storage medium. then you tell me the guy worte this who are miss understand too.

if DVD9 have enough room for 1080p, then why all HD movie only put on HD DVD OR BD
i also what to watch FULL HD moives in my computer without buying a new ROM. i can save me more money. and I already got the westy 37w3. i just can not wait anymore !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SuperKeijo]

You guys think this is a simple question???

did you View Poll Results?

Yes we did, but when the questions are like: "DVD can output 1080p on gaming images?" maybe the answers aren't too exact either. (I still have no idea what the fuck this one really means )

 

[dmanrevived]

also BD's reading speed is 5x fast than DVD
and HDdvd is 3x faster than DVD
______________________________________BD_______HDDVD______DVD
SD MPEG-2 at 5Mbit/s__________________22.2 hours__3.3 hours____3.8 hours
HD with AVC or VC-1 at 13Mbit/s_________ 8.5 hours __5.1 hours_____N/A
HD with MPEG-2 at 20Mbit/s _____________5.6 hours___3.3 hours_____N/A

if those people said that DVD just a storage medium. then you tell me the guy worte this who are miss understand too.

if DVD9 have enough room for 1080p, then why all HD movie only put on HD DVD OR BD
i also what to watch FULL HD moives in my computer without buying a new ROM. i can save me more money. and I already got the westy 37w3. i just can not wait anymore !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know. Maybe because DVD players aren't designed to play HD content, so the information would be irrelevant? DVD at 10x and 16x read speeds can achieve 13.85Mbit/s and 22.16Mbit/s, so it's fast enough for those HD codecs.

 

[legendz411]

maybe if you post your native language, someone will see itand can PM you. It may be easier for you to understand.

 

[diefathin]

I don't know. Maybe because DVD players aren't designed to play HD content, so the information would be irrelevant? DVD at 10x and 16x read speeds can achieve 13.85Mbit/s and 22.16Mbit/s, so it's fast enough for those HD codecs.

_________________bd _______hd dvd________dvd
Raw data transfer __53.95 Mbit/s 36.55 Mbit/s 11.08 Mbit/s
Audio+Video ______48.0 Mbit/s 30.24 Mbit/s 10.08 Mbit/s
Video ____________40.0 Mbit/s 29.4 Mbit/s 9.8 Mbit/s

you said "16x read speeds can achieve 13.85Mbit/s and 22.16Mbit/s"

still bd is faster

 

[SuperKeijo]

you said "16x read speeds can achieve 13.85Mbit/s and 22.16Mbit/s"

still bd is faster

So? what does that have to with this? dmanrevived never said dvd was faster, did he?

 

[dmanrevived]

_________________bd _______hd dvd________dvd
Raw data transfer __53.95 Mbit/s 36.55 Mbit/s 11.08 Mbit/s
Audio+Video ______48.0 Mbit/s 30.24 Mbit/s 10.08 Mbit/s
Video ____________40.0 Mbit/s 29.4 Mbit/s 9.8 Mbit/s

you said "16x read speeds can achieve 13.85Mbit/s and 22.16Mbit/s"

still bd is faster

It doesn't matter if HD DVD and BR are faster. HD video in those two codecs you linked earlier only requires a certain transfer rate, so DVD's are capable of streaming enough data for 1080p video it seems.

 

[diefathin]

Xbox 360 supported outputing 1080p (not elite)? <-- outputing ture 1080p
yes 10
no 10

1920*1080 = 1080p they are the same?
true 10
false 11

Vga cable supported 1080p output?
yes 13
no 7

DVD can output 1080p on gaming images?
true 6
false 15

DVD can output 1080p on movies?
yes 8
no 12


A lot of people are looking for a 1080p Lcd in this forum.
I can not believe this poll results…..I though the answer should be clear….but it did not

 

[dmanrevived]

Aside from questions 1 and 3, your other questions can be true or false depending on the context...