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Even with all of the points being cleared the WUs were still done and nothing is lost for the project.
Trivolve?
Party2go9820?
I read the links... I read the posts...
what happened?
Trivolve is not on our team.
Ok, as promised. Here is what I feel comfortable saying in public:.............
3) I don't care about the personal points. I'm more concerned with my reputation, the reputation of the [H] and most importantly the Folding@Home Project. I don't want to do anything that would give bad press to any of these organizations as they are dependent upon their members to act with honor and principles.
forkus said:Relic, i have a screenshot of the overtake at 2.3months. I clearly remember you stating that when overtake is <12months you will fold for OCAU
jws2346 said:@ nomad8u, you gots to give them chickens a break or pretty soon they'll be on the endangered species list. What are you tryin' to do make Colonial Sanders go more bananas then he probably is? (Kentucky Fried Chicken)
Lets not speculate. It appears to be of a personal matter and needs no further discussion. What's done, is done. Lets get back to work.
Ok, as promised. Here is what I feel comfortable saying in public:
1) This is not a case of a virus/package being deployed to unsuspecting computer users. I would think my long history and slow gain in the ranks would be proof of this.
2) In my opinion, this is a gray area involving a possible EULA violation. I don't feel like I violated it, but others (not necessarily at Stanford) believe I did.
3) I don't care about the personal points. I'm more concerned with my reputation, the reputation of the [H] and most importantly the Folding@Home Project. I don't want to do anything that would give bad press to any of these organizations as they are dependent upon their members to act with honor and principles.
4) I'm reluctant to say more as I fear a possible lawsuit. Not from Stanford, but other parties I was involved with in the past. IMO this is unlikely, but I can't risk the financial security of me and my family on it.
Well said, I talked with Party2go9820 and it's not as black and white as it seems. It's up to him and Vijay to see what can be done. For now, let's just fold on harder to regain the lost points.
...Vijay to see what can be done.
In light of this event, I discussed with my boss and he told me that even if he gave formal permission in writing, this doesn't always mean that someone somewhere else agree. We are in a big corporation with over 5000 employees and a IT team in the 3 digits so it's bound to have someone somewhere who will bitch about that.
He suggested that I must limit folding to my own work computer, computers connected to a separate internet connection (we have a ADSL modem and router for laptop connectivity testing which is totally separate from the corporate network) and computers on the bench (for pre-deployment burning and troubleshooting in case people complaint about freezes). For this reason, I will go pull some computers which is in the classroom and a few coworkers borgs (which is not what I control 100%). To compensate the loss of about 4000 ppd, I just ordered a 8800GS that I found for 91.99$. I also wrote down on paper with my boss and the department top boss a protocol in case there is a complaint which allow me to pull the clients if asked without any other implication. As long as everyone is fine, it's ok. I even explained what happened to Party2go9820 and he told me it can happen if the management got remplaced and the new boss is hostile to this type of use so I'm better to be safe than sorry.
When I started to sit in the PPD top 10, 90% is from work computers. Now, it only account for only 20% and after the changes, it will be only 10% with 90% totally owned by me at home.
another reason why its not worth running this project anymore unless you are rich and can crap out tons of nvidia gpu's...
Well, if you are folding just for the points, I can understand your beef. If/when a cure is found as a direct result from our WUs, it will make the points seem like a small thing.
What's this folding for the points garbage, if the WU's you are getting keep on EUE'ing (like about 4x times in a row) there is no scientific result. Oh yeah, the only "beef" I know is on cows
Putting the permission on writing go a long way in protecting your ass even if it become unwanted. This will show them that you initially have one so it won't get your points zeroed out. However, this won't protect you when it come to your own job security
As for the team points, unless there is a blatant lack of action against illegal borging, points should be very safe minus the points loss due to that user.
Soon, I will try to poke Vijay about the whole process, especially the part that the security team is comprised of PG members and members from the community. Who is those community members ? What about leaders of the 5 biggest teams ? Is there some way to check if the process is legit or just bogus ? On what criterias a complaint is judged ? Is there such thing as a warning or different gradation of punishment ? What about the grey area issues ?