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robberbaron said:It's be a pretty silly chipset if it didnt support Conroe. Then again, it would be sad, since that'd mean Conroe would still have the quadpumped FSB rather than Hypertransport. Oh well. Conroe would hold its own aside from that, I'm sure.
The 975X is for the next gen EE right?
Lazy_Moron said:Its for the Pressler dual core processors. But im assuming it will be compatible with the 5xx/6xx series and the other Pentium D's that are out right now.
Asian Dub Foundation said:i wonder if the new EE can hold a candle to the FX
robberbaron said:It will be a dual core. Apples and oranges, heh. The real question is, can it hold a candle to the 4800+? Doubtful, unless they ramped the speed up to 3.73GHz.
Asian Dub Foundation said:lol if thats the case no need for dual core FX
im 90% sure they were talking about the now current pentium-d's, not the 65nm chips that are coming out.headala said:So does anyone know for sure that the 955 won't support any of the new cores? When I bought mine, I read somewhere that said it would support "next generation of intel procs". It's an expensive platform if it's just for this chip generation.
chrisf6969 said:I think the 945/955 could support SLI if Nvidia would allow it in the drivers. Look at how ULI hacked the Nvidia drivers to work with their chipset. I think its all about the drivers only allowing certain chipsets more than anything. PCIe is a standard there's nothing special about Nvidia's PCIe lanes on its SLI boards (well besides the one that allows 2 x 16x lanes. )
Eva_Unit_0 said:^ yeah I definitely agree. At this point, I would never consider buying an intel platform, and it's all because I hate their "musical chipsets" mentality. Intel changes chipsets like they change their underwear. I find it ridiculous that every single processor update also requires a mobo update.
Look at AMD...even the very first s939 boards can take an X2, and there is absolutely no forseeable upgrade limit. And to make it worse, intel's chipsets are DAMN expensive...typically the most expensive out there.
drizzt81 said:Your argument isn't really true. X2's would require BIOS updates and I am sure that I can dig up 1 or more s939 board that won't support it. But we can safely assume that if you bought a Mobo with a 'current' chipset during the past 12 months, it will support and X2.
Winnarrobberbaron said:Given the choice of "BIOS update" or "Buy a new fucking board," I think AMD's "BIOS update" wins.
Shifra said:current 955X equiped with 2X PCI-Express slots are pre-configed to support CrossFire already.
intel's constant updating definitly sucks.
and i'd expect bios hacks if indeed presler/yonah dont work on 955X, because chipset wise 955X and 975X are going to be virtually identicle. Much the same how intel screwed people with the 925X and then released the 925XE with 1066FSB support, same exact chipsets minor modifications. All of the tier one motherboard manufacturers and some tier 2 released bios that allowed for support of 1066FSB. So i'd expect the same deal here.
Conroe may be slightly different since i'd expect them to increase the FSB speeds over 1066, and they're also going to officially support DDR2-800 (again, means they better mess with the FSB to get improvment since DDR2 667 is a joke on the current FSB). So forget it with this one too.
While it is quite impressive that the intel chipsets are that fexible in terms of FSB, it is sad that intel is literally forcing you to buy a new mobo each time around, by 'artificially' making the CPUs incomptible. Please note that the quotes: I am not expert, but it seems quite awkward to me that every CPU refresh/ new CPU needs a new mobo.chrisf6969 said:Well, I've been running at 1200Mhz FSB since I got my Abit IC-7 years ago. Now if I could just fit a 775LGA chip in to the 478 pin socket! (going get my hammer, BRB!)
Anyway, if the boards are spec'd to 1066, they will probably run at the next speed bump up. LIke my old 875 mobo can run 1066 NO PROBLEM. And like Abit took the BE7 (845 chipset mobo) and got it to run at 800FSB, when it was only spec'd for 533, and that was a much bigger difference.
USMC2Hard4U said:The 955x Will not support the New 65nm Pentium D "Preslers"
USMC2Hard4U said:What is intel doing?
You cant just upgrade your Processor anymore.... you have to buy a whole new mobo for it because the chipsets are shitty. I love intel, I think they make solid products, but wtf... The 945 / 955 just came out... hell, the 925 just came out.... I think this is rediclous.
I think this is Great that the 975 can support all this cross fire and sli and what not.... but why didnt they make all that available in the 955? SLI was out before the 955.... we knew about crossfire... any reason that the 955 wont support Presler?
Bad move on intels part... all netburst mobos are obsolete the day they come out... that sucks.
SmokeRngs said:I don't mean this to be a threadcrap, as it's more reminiscing and an observation. Does anyone remember the 440BX? How long did that chipset stick around and how many processors did it run? It was never meant to run the PIII processors but it did it just fine. I don't see any reason why Intel couldn't do this with one of the multitude of current chipsets for the most part. I'm sure there are some differences that might require a new chipset, but nothing like what we've seen.
Ummm... Presler EE will work on 955, it's conroe that will be limited to 975.... maybe. There might be a bios fix to get it to work with 945/955, but for certain it'll work on 975. That's really the only difference between 955 and 975, well, the big one at least.
robberbaron said:It will be a dual core. Apples and oranges, heh. The real question is, can it hold a candle to the 4800+? Doubtful, unless they ramped the speed up to 3.73GHz.
coldpower27 said:It's almost a certainty the i965 chipset series will support Conroe, however it is unkown if the 975 series will, maybe a second revision of the same chipset.
lithium726 said:
wait, youre claiming that the BUDGET chipset (i965) will support conroe yet the HIGH END chipset (i975) wont?
sorry, but that makes no sense.