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This is basically all he does, amusingly.Please stop posting a statement like its a fact.
Please stop posting a statement like its a fact. How would you like if I said 9800GTX vs. 9800PRO. ATI wins again. Then say I know it must be true because so and so said so since it written at a website so that is so.
Your thread title states it as a fact.KIND SIR i did not state it as fact... its what i beleive based on what i have seen, read and heard.
are u saying the opposite is true?
KIND SIR i did not state it as fact... its what i beleive based on what i have seen, read and heard.
are u saying the opposite is true?
Did you see the Firingsquad review yet? They have tri-sli and it's mentalHonestly, I'm interested in the SLI numbers of 280 x2 or x3. Odds are no matter the cost of anythign 3x280s will be the fastest graphics soultion period.
Did you see the Firingsquad review yet? They have tri-sli and it's mental
Did you see the Firingsquad review yet? They have tri-sli and it's mental
yeah yeah yeah, and the Roadrunner will beat all of em. whats your point?
why in the living hell do people keep wanting to compare a 9800GX2 and 4870X2 to a single core 280?
Roughly comparable pricepoint?why in the living hell do people keep wanting to compare a 9800GX2 and 4870X2 to a single core 280?
Roughly comparable pricepoint?
What does it matter if they use 2 gpu's or 20? If all the matters is performance, then it should be 1 card vs 1 card, regardless of the amount of gpu's involved.
so what you are saying is that if they could physically fit 8 GPU's on one card and it whoops up on a single gpu card then that is a perfectly reasonable comparison?...
last time i checked this was not about how many cores you can physically fit on a PCB, it's about who has the superior architecture
If they cost the same, why not? I don't think the consumer is interested in how it gets the job done as long as the price is adequate.
Speaking for myself, I care only about price/performance. I don't give a quarter of a shit whether it's one gpu, a dozen, or a magic hamster wheel inside the case. I care about the results and getting good value for my money. Just like nobody really cared that the Q6600 wasn't "real" quadcore, and the Phenom was. What mattered was the result, an "inefficient" architecture that kicked ass for a great price.i can only speak for myself, but i am more interested in the actual architecture and how efficient it is
so what you are saying is that if they could physically fit 8 GPU's on one card and it whoops up on a single gpu card then that is a perfectly reasonable comparison?...
last time i checked this was not about how many cores you can physically fit on a PCB, it's about who has the superior architecture
The thing is we are not comparing 3 foot long cards with 8 or 16 GPU's on it. You're taking it the extreme on that. What we are comparing are cards with 2GPU's that have nearly the same footprint and take up only one pci slot. That's a reasonable comparison to me.
Speaking for myself, I care only about price/performance. I don't give a quarter of a shit whether it's one gpu, a dozen, or a magic hamster wheel inside the case. I care about the results and getting good value for my money. Just like nobody really cared that the Q6600 wasn't "real" quadcore, and the Phenom was. What mattered was the result, an "inefficient" architecture that kicked ass for a great price.
the 280 is one GPU on a card, the 9800GX2 and 4870X2 are two GPU's on one card, thats what everybody is trying to compare, and it is only a valid comparison when speaking in terms of price/performance, when looking at performance per GPU the 280 is far from a "flop", "failure", or "refresh", that is apparent when you compare 280 SLI to 9800GX2 or 9800GTX SLI
thats what i mean by apples to apples
while this is not about Phenom, i would like to mention that Phenom pretty much sucks as an architecture and sucks in terms of sales compared to C2D.....great price only goes so far.....it's not a great price anymore if the performance you get is lackluster, cheap only goes so far.....but hey, we are talking about the GTX 280 here, and as an architecture it scales very well, and a 280GX2 vs. a 9800GX2...well....its pretty obvious, the GT200 GPU is far superior
because 2 gpu's on one card is still SLI or Crossfire, they just packed it into one PCB is all....when comparing performance you are typically looking at architecture of the GPU....
so what you are saying is that if they could physically fit 8 GPU's on one card and it whoops up on a single gpu card then that is a perfectly reasonable comparison?...
last time i checked this was not about how many cores you can physically fit on a PCB, it's about who has the superior architecture
same way you dont logically compare a A64 to a A64 X2 in multithreading tasks
i want apples to apples, like here
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_gtx_280_260_performance/page13.asp
here is 280 SLI and even 280 tri-SLI compared to 9800GX2 and such....now....based on the 3XXX series of ATI cards, and how they compare to the 9800's, do you really think the 4XXX X2 or whatever will have a chance against a 280 GX2 or 280 SLI when those setups are beating the 9800 GX2 and even QUAD 9800GTX SLI by such a large margin in most cases?
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_gtx_280_260_performance/page13.asp
here is 280 SLI and even 280 tri-SLI compared to 9800GX2 and such....now....based on the 3XXX series of ATI cards, and how they compare to the 9800's, do you really think the 4XXX X2 or whatever will have a chance against a 280 GX2 or 280 SLI when those setups are beating the 9800 GX2 and even QUAD 9800GTX SLI by such a large margin in most cases?
cheap does only go so far... but the fact remains
if a 4870 costs 329.99 and is within a average of 15 to 20% slower than a 649.99 gtx280
thats an average 17.5% boost in speed for 95% more money...
Ati will slam Nvidia on price performance if thats the case...
I hope you actually looked at the numbers b/c for the crysis benches they didnt even bother putting in 9800 gx2 sli numbers there; they just compared single 280 vs older gen g92/ g80 cards. BTW gtx 280 didnt do so well with 4aa, af in tomshardware reviews.
Because of the gtx 280s price now I dont think its worth just buying one of the cards, you might as well shell out close to 2G to crush other sli rigs in 2560 by 1600. Otherwise single 280 vs gx2 there is not that much improvement.
Tomshardware.com is still using time demos the last time I checked. Which have been proven to give bad results.