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I am waiting on both companies to come out. Until then, my 280GTX does the job. I do look forward to a new card though.
The 295 is still a bit of a bugger though b/c of SLI. If it works, great, if not? Well, you know.
That is why I will stick with the fastest single gpu I can afford. No duals for me.
I was always iffy about going sli because of the complaints you hear, stuttering.. poor performance etc, I went 260 sli awhile back and have 0 regrets.. always smooth as butter.
Wow TalonMan, ever hear the expression less is more.
The smarter people are not ATI or Nvidia fans, they simply pick the best product at the time they wish to purchase, and right now its all ATI. CUDA and PhysX (who cares) and DX11 is a bit of a yawn on the other side of the fence.
When it comes time for me to purchase a new video card I buy whats best at that time. I bought a 4870x2 when it was released.. returned it 2 weeks later though, the drivers were a complete fail. If the latest and greatest ati and nvidia cards are close in performance then I do go with nvidia.. I just feel their drivers are a little more solid in my experience.
Now that you can get ati cards via XFX that does help out alot.. as I always felt ati was lacking in brands.. evga, bfg, xfx all have great warranty and support and that also factored in with my decision.
Sure your really talking CF vs SLi and I tend to agree, but when it comes to Single GPU solutions I dont believe there is much of a dif in quality of drivers.
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I also wonder if nVidia will be able to compare the 380 to the 4870, like the 5870 is being compared to a 285.
(Kidding, I know it aint gunna happin.)
I also wonder if nVidia will be able to compare the 380 to the 4870, like the 5870 is being compared to a 285.
(Kidding, I know it aint gunna happin.)
TalonMan, it's not the size of the memory bus that counts. It's how you pair it!
With slow GDDR3? Even if you have a 512-bit memory bus, your overall memory bandwidth will still be limited. So, please, next time, instead of looking at that, look at the total memory bandwidth.
TalonMan, it's not the size of the memory bus that counts. It's how you pair it!
With slow GDDR3? Even if you have a 512-bit memory bus, your overall memory bandwidth will still be limited. So, please, next time, instead of looking at that, look at the total memory bandwidth.
No, they should compare it to a product that is currently released.So is AMD supposed to compare their present cards with future cards from nvidia that have no actual release date or official specs? What else would they compare the 5870 to?
What are we defending here? The Radeon 5870 is $90 cheaper than the GTX-295. Perhaps the performance hype of the 5870 was touted to be a little higher than it actually is, but since the Radeon 3k debue, AMD has been about getting the best performance for your money, not about being the best performer.
Compare Radeon 5k series to Geforce 300 series.
Why do you wanna compare a single GPU card(5870) to a dual gpu card (gtx295)?
Why do you wanna compare a single GPU card(5870) to an SLI setup (gtx285/gtx295 in SLI or dual gpu sli setup in some benchmarks) ?
Why do you wanna compare a single GPU card(5870) to a dual gpu card (gtx295)?
When 5870x2 hits, ATI will finally have both the single-GPU and the single-card performance crown. Then the fanboys can stop this stupid argument. . .
. . . of course then it's going to be another argument: "that's not fair! you can't compare 5870x2 to the 295! wait till GT300 comes out!!!"
Nope, I now say all GPU's marketed as a single, should be treated as such.
Run anything you like againt the 295, and 5870X2, and GTX 395...
But we can't cry that single cards shouldn't run againt them. Too late for that in my book.
They already have...
They all should be treated a 1 GPU now.
To think that AMD didn't want to have the fastest card on the planet, is being quite naive
And we can't compare the HD 5870 with anything other than previous Radeons and current GeForces.
Yeah, I have to say that reading these new 5870 reviews actually makes the 295 look better. I don't want one...but if they were to drop in price or if someone ran a sale on one I'd consider it.
Knowing Nvidia, they always tend to make their next gen out-do last gen's "double card," so I'm really interested to see what the G300 brings to the table.
Paying 25% more doesn't justify getting 20% more performance over a card with immature drivers that is compatible with new standards. Driver optimizations and DX11/OpenCL make the 295 less attractive to people that are either ATI-loyal or want a really fast single-gpu solution and don't care about company loyalty. Considering the 5870 is also by FAR more energy efficient, there isn't too much of a reason to buy a 295 now. Stick with what ya got now and get whatever DX11 card tickles you whenever it comes out.
If I remember correctly the 9800 GX2 was basically tied with the GTX 280. The same goes for the 5870 and GTX 295 just about. I would take a 5870 over a 295 any day.