I'm feeling sluggish so have the itch to try some fast pace FPS again, so pre-ordered this display. With two displays, I'll have all my bases covered. This LG on the desk for 4K/240 Hz-desktop use, then 1080p/480 Hz-FPS use. Then on my left side/wall, 65" 4K/144 Hz/2000 nit FALD for flight sims and single player games/immersion with gamepad sitting on my Eames chair.
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LG 32GS95UE – OLED 31.5″ with 4K @ 240Hz and 1080p @ 480Hz Support - The death knell of LCD panels
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tongshadow
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Display Guy is a clown, cant wait to see him get dabbed on by Chadptimum.
I really wish there was a feature to block certain channels from search results on Youtube. This guy spams garbage videos on all monitors, just like that FOMO white glove idiot does for TV's.
I don't know if you can block them from a search, but you can from recommendations. You click the three dots next to the title and tell it not to show you videos from a channel anymore. I've had to do that quite a bit, and Youtube is now much better about what it recommends to me.
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I still can't believe LG screwed up this monitor by making it have the worst HDR performance out of nearly all OLED monitors out there:
I refuse to believe that its performance is intentional. Hopefully by official release it will get some firmware update because after all the stacking you can do (15% promo code, 15% Rakuten cash back), its basically the same price as the MSI QD-OLED here in the states.
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Omg I hate that white glove idiot
Cancelled my order, as I just found out the 2024 S95D OLED can hit over 2,100 nit 2% and almost 1,800 nit 10% HDR which is insane. And the 65" I get over $1K military discount. 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...s-oled-but-not-as-we-know-it/?sh=64871bd9608f
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...s-oled-but-not-as-we-know-it/?sh=64871bd9608f
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Cancelled my order, as I just found out the 2024 S95D OLED can hit over 2,100 nit 2% and almost 1,800 nit HDR which is insane. And the 65" I get over $1K military discount.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...s-oled-but-not-as-we-know-it/?sh=64871bd9608f
Lol and did they take those measurements at 6500k or 10k whitepoint?
Multiple sources are getting the same numbers.
And they even tossed in a free TV for the guest bedroom...
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If that's the case then that's awesome. Can't wait to see what a QD-PHOLED brings next year
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Digitaltrends answered this question, they are not taking the measurement at D65 whitepoint:
You can clearly see the white point is not 6500k. So it's definitely not going to do 1800 nits when properly calibrated to D65, I'm expecting more like 1500 nits given that the S95C was around 1200. Still impressive though!
Ya I put my order on hold until in-depth reviews come out. Kinda skeptical about that matte finish.
A new PG32UQX for $1,900 is tempting:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Swift-G...-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1
I can't find the Viewsonic version for under like $2,300.
A new PG32UQX for $1,900 is tempting:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Swift-G...-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1
I can't find the Viewsonic version for under like $2,300.
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I think the 480Hz mode really is the only point of this monitor. If you only use 4K mode then a QD-OLED is a much better and cheaper option. I think the gimped HDR performance is actually intentional because this is the first time LG has ever made such a high PPI WOLED so they probably have even more issues than QD-OLED given that you know...they have a wholeass extra subpixel to contend with. There's just no way a 140PPI WOLED is going to be able to perform the same as a 110 PPI one.
I'm still weighing options. I want to go back to the PG but just not willing to spend over $1200 on it in 2024.
Right when these OLED's dropped there were a ton of PG32UQX's on ebay from people "upgrading." There was even one with the AR film removed that I think went for $900.
I have another 32" QD-OLED on order but debating if I can live with the lackluster HDR experience. I learned my lesson, don't jump the gun selling your old monitor.
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Have you checked out the upcoming TCL? It's only 27 inches, but the specs look pretty promising. 1152 dimming zones, VESA HDR1400 with 1600 nits peak brightness, fast VA panel. If it's a real banger and not a disappointment like the LG miniLED I would upgrade my InnoCN to it.
Yeah saw that but couldn't find any info on availability.
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Are you new to Samsung or something?
Ya I'm taking a gamble for the off chance they upgraded it. They changed the 55+" QN90's back to VA for 2024 (D), so maybe they worked on the 43 and 50". Another reason I'm having it shipped for BestBuy pickup, means I can just return it back to Bestbuy which is likely. I have a feeling I'm going to end up with another PG32UQX lol.
When's your pickup date? Interested to hear what you think about it before I bite the bullet. I've had it in my cart for a week now because of that damn throwaway free 65" TV that I could gift to someone.
Thursday. But I'm already wavering lol. I should have jumped on the XG321UG when they were on sale for under $2K.
Yeah I get it. Too much uncertainty with the Samsung. I'm going to hold off until someone has some hands on input because I really don't want to return 2 TV's lol.
Yikes, I just watched the Hardware Unboxed of the 43" G7, that thing is awful. If this has the same panel, I want nothing to do with it. Since that's highly likely, cancelled order.
The search continues... I think my AW32 is crying that I want to get rid of it. Such an amazing display in so many ways besides brightness.
The search continues... I think my AW32 is crying that I want to get rid of it. Such an amazing display in so many ways besides brightness.
The 43" G7 is the same panel but the G7's overdrive is busted so its way slower than the TV version. It's also way dimmer and the local dimming is much worse. There is no reason to buy it as long as the TV version exists unless you're desperate for DP input.
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OLED still leaves a lot to be desired on the HDR front. Hopefully PHOLED changes this but who knows.
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Are you new to enthusiast forums or something?
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Most never go back to LCD. It's impossible to accept the poor uniformity and bad viewing angles once you see an OLED. All high-end monitors coming out this year are OLEDs, so anyone who needs a high performer will need to get an OLED, I have yet to see a comparable LCD offering.
The only group of enthusiasts I usually see going back to LCDs are the ones who want a really large screen, but cant afford the equivalent OLED size.
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I also got a robo call from LG saying I should expect my pre-order to ship the 16th or so. This is part of a monitor setup revamp and will sit alongside a MSI MPG321UR QD. I’m planning on using the LG primarily for gaming and the MSI for software development, productivity, etc.
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In the gaming tv realm, the highest performing FALD screens that can truly compete with OLEDs via performance gains/tradeoffs are actually more expensive than high performing OLEDs, especially over time. If anything, the highest quality FALD screens are the same price range as oleds. The samsung S90C QD OLED is the exact same price as the the sony x93L bravia FALD VA for example. You can catch LG oleds on sale throughout the year for good prices too.
Gaming monitors, (rather than gaming TVs) are a different landscape, where their output levels can be less and resolutions and form-factors vary more. There are a few flagship oled gaming monitors that are more like $1500 which is more expensive than the typical fald monitor currently, (most likely due to the 240hz oled refresh/leap) . . but the top tier FALD monitors were $2000 to $2500 in recent history, and the ones with higher features differentiating themselves from the OLED monitors, like the G95NC 7680x2160 super ultrawide are still in that price bracket. Also, the highest performing consumer FALD HDR monitors (leaning more on the monitor/media side than the gaming side) are still the ucg/ucx/uqx screens which are pretty expensive at $1800 - $2300 typically.
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I've been doing two different monitor techs at my pc setup since at least 2006. LCD next to fw900 graphics professional crt, Fairly early 1440p adoption with a 1440p glossy ips next to one of the first 120hz gaming displays, a 120hz 27" 1080p va (g-sync didn't exist yet), 1440p glossy ips next to 1440p PG278q 144hz g-sync tn, etc. as some of the more longer lasting setups. More recently a central 4k 120hz vrr 48" media and gaming oled flanked by 4k 60 hz VA screens.
I'm looking at a 8k FALD which supposedly has good ai upscaling+fald and parameter output shaping, etc. which can supposedly do 240hz 4k upscaled to 8k, at low input lag 2ms - 10ms (waiting on actual numbers tested at 240fpsHz), and which is essentially a glossy screen. Waiting on more fleshed out reviews of that though, and will wait for the typical, considerable samsung price drops over several months and through the year from very much inflated early adopter prices (plus I may qualify for a discount) as they are asking $5000 for the 65" at release (not incl. any potential qualifying discount). The ability to have 4x 4k worth of desktop/app real estate without middling bezels while having potentially 4k240hz upscaled nicely to 8k gaming, bright HDR color volume on larger %'s of the screen and at higher nits, plus potentially the ability to tile inputs on the screen, etc. makes the tradeoff from oled to that kind of screen's capabilities appealing to me overall.
OLEDs aren't available in large 7680x2160, 240hz capable screens (not 240hz on nvidia in the current gen but that could change on 5000 series), and they aren't available in 8k 120(4k240) screens currently.
If I wanted a 8k oled it would be like $10,000 usd to $20,000 usd + ~ 9% tax, lol. They would be considerably larger than 65" in size, where 65" is already pretty large even for a command center with the screen decoupled from the desk and set back a few feet past the far desk edge. . So that's not happening. It's hardly ever going to be worth spending a over $1500 - $2k for a pc screen since tech changes so much over a few years, if not year to year on some cycles. Once in awhile, given a good enough feature set, I'll swing a (relatively) costly big screen or gpu purchase, especially if I can repurpose a gaming tv to be a media display elsewhere over it's lifetime after I upgrade from it some-year. (I'm not dropping $4k to $5k on that 65" 8k but it will drop over the year + I prob quality for discount on top of it). I don't upgrade super frequently on the pc front but I do a lot more frequently than my living room tv. For living room displays, I can deal with a high performing 70"+ tv on the same tech in my living for a long time.
samsung price talk
Since they always ask a bigger early adopter price, it's worth waiting it out, kind of like buying a car at the end of the model year, b/c by then they'll have dropped a lot. It's usually not even that long for samsung to drop price. Plus some qualify for samsung discount on top of that (though that removes the ability to add a best buy warranty by buying from them, even though you can pick up the samsung purchase at best buy ironically).
https://pangoly.com/en/browse/monitor/samsung
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Hardware Unboxed thinks they may have lowered the brightness of the white pixel to more closely match the curve of the colored pixels. Because the color volume is a lot better in the middle parts of the brightness curve. But, it also causes the middle of the curve to be overall less bright.
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Then that just highlights how crappy the white subpixel is and that LG needs to move away from it ASAP, which they hopefully will be able to do by 2026 if the roadmap goes according to plan.