On the back of the case there are railings that the back panel slides on, so i tucked the IDE cables on those things. Behind the mobo thing mite work, i guess ill give it a try after i come bak from college tomm. I am kind out of ideas, rather - i cant stick anything anywhere physically. I want to sell my 3 IDE HDDs and get one 250 gig sata drive. that would clean a SHYT load of wiring up, get rid of that IDE controller and i will probably just stick both of my optical drives onto one cable since i never do disc-to-disc coping and give me back a whole line of power connectors.