Me too, Thanks man!
I find I like to chat with Intel only users more than AMD Only ones. I find that my experiences are closer to Intel Folks more than AMD Folks. I honestly think there are way more folks in the middle than on one side or the other. I might agree with the Intel folks 75% of the time but only about 30% with the AMD folks. The Intel guys (most of them anyway) seem to agree to disagree and move on, instead of flaming. I like being a Bandwagon jumpper as one guy called it.
When some folks say, "If Conroe kicks ass, I'm on it", Some I believe, some I don't. Price is the only thing that kept me from getting an X2. Although my Asus A8N SLI is not a great overclocker it is very stable. I don't like what Asus did to make it that stable but that's really for another thread. I also don't like the amount of tweaking it took to get it that way. nVidia's software sucks eggs! Intel's works as advertised.
Back to the subject. Anand retested Conroe, hell, that should have been enough. None of the AMD leaning folks acted like this when Anand posted his "Most exciteing thing at IDF" preview of the Hammer during an Intel IDF, hehehehe!
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.html?i=1591
So we are now supposed to believe this guy is Intel biased? Or was fooled by Intel?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648&p=14
Then read this?
So why do folks act surprised by what Conroe *SEEMINGLY pulled off? Anand didn't believe his own test results with Yonah.
Last link.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2627&p=10
That's not picking on Anand because XBits, Tech-Report, Extremetech and others did the same kinds of things. So why would folks think Conroe would not run as cool relative to its speed? I'd love to see them compare the two nearest to 2GHz to eachother.
I find I like to chat with Intel only users more than AMD Only ones. I find that my experiences are closer to Intel Folks more than AMD Folks. I honestly think there are way more folks in the middle than on one side or the other. I might agree with the Intel folks 75% of the time but only about 30% with the AMD folks. The Intel guys (most of them anyway) seem to agree to disagree and move on, instead of flaming. I like being a Bandwagon jumpper as one guy called it.
When some folks say, "If Conroe kicks ass, I'm on it", Some I believe, some I don't. Price is the only thing that kept me from getting an X2. Although my Asus A8N SLI is not a great overclocker it is very stable. I don't like what Asus did to make it that stable but that's really for another thread. I also don't like the amount of tweaking it took to get it that way. nVidia's software sucks eggs! Intel's works as advertised.
Back to the subject. Anand retested Conroe, hell, that should have been enough. None of the AMD leaning folks acted like this when Anand posted his "Most exciteing thing at IDF" preview of the Hammer during an Intel IDF, hehehehe!
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.html?i=1591
Anand said:As you've undoubtedly heard, AMD has announced that they have a working version of their upcoming Claw Hammer processor. Not only did we get a chance to see it running two different operating systems, but we actually got to hold the CPU (how geeky can we get?) and take a look at AMD's first reference board based on the AMD-8000 chipset.
Final Words
This (K8) has been, without a doubt, the most exciting thing at IDF thus far and we just thought you'd get as much of a kick out of it as we did. For now, it's a bit of rest before .......
So we are now supposed to believe this guy is Intel biased? Or was fooled by Intel?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648&p=14
Then read this?
ANand said:The problem with the Core Duo is that its clock speeds aren't going to be quite high enough to be competitive, on the very high end, with AMD. Luckily for Intel, Conroe should be able to offer higher clock speeds without much of a performance penalty, thanks to its 4-issue core. It is always interesting to note that Intel's marketing focus is moving away from focusing on ILP (Instruction Level Parallelism), yet one of its biggest features of their next-generation microarchitecture is a significant increase in ILP.
Honestly, as it stands today, if Intel can get clock speeds up, the only area that they will need to improve on is gaming performance to be competitive with AMD. We wouldn't be too surprised if the comparisons that we have shown today end up being very similar to what we encounter at Conroe's launch: with AMD and Intel performing very similarly at the same clock speeds, but with AMD's on-die memory controller giving it the advantage in gaming.
So why do folks act surprised by what Conroe *SEEMINGLY pulled off? Anand didn't believe his own test results with Yonah.
Last link.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2627&p=10
Anand said:While the Yonah and Athlon 64 X2 systems consumed relatively similar power at idle, Yonah hardly eats up any more power under full load. In fact, a 2.0GHz Yonah under 100% load consumes less power than an Athlon 64 X2 3800+ at idle. Obviously Intel has the advantage of being on a much lower power 65nm process, but it won't be until the second half of next year before we see any Athlon 64 X2s at 65nm, so it is an advantage that Intel will have for quite some time.
That's not picking on Anand because XBits, Tech-Report, Extremetech and others did the same kinds of things. So why would folks think Conroe would not run as cool relative to its speed? I'd love to see them compare the two nearest to 2GHz to eachother.