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I dont like it. I think it's a pain in the ass but it does make the game harder so that is kind of exciting I guess.
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Do you like the Doom3 flashlight/weapon limitation
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JustForFun said:For some reason, muzzleflash is NOT enabled on some cards during the install of Doom. It was not turned on for me and I use a GF4 Ti4200.
Anyway, to turn this on so your muzzleflash DOES work do this:
Open your doomconfig.cfg file and look for the following line:
seta g_muzzleFlash
Make sure the value is set to "1" and not "0". Save the file. Your weapons will always show a muzzleflash when firing now. I did this and noticed NO performance hit and the little extra light helps when shooting bad guys.
Hope this helps.
JFF
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Really, thanks
Sorry, i meant night vision. I.e. the way your eye adapts to the dark so you can see better. Not nightvision the green shit.
Plus, technically, I don't have peripheral vision anyways. They still let soldiers join the army without it, trust me, I know
Plus, technically, I don't have peripheral vision anyways. They still let soldiers join the army without it, trust me, I know
Helmet-mounted NVG's don't eliminate peripheral vision, but they WILL reduce low-light pupil dilation/dark adaptation. The binocular devices don't eliminate "3D" vision either, just reduce it somewhat. Also, the current-generation NODs adapt very well to ambient light transients, especially compared to the early (and crappy) first-gen stuff.kronchev said:
That said, I don't think it's reasonable to expect anyone, even a Marine, to have a pair of nods with him at all times. I WOULD, however, expect him to be able to use a handgun and light simultaneously and/or improvise a weapon-mounted light. It's not a difficult concept for one who's trained to "Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome."
It's id's game, though, and they can do what they want with it. Fortunately, so can the modders!
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Obviously the flashlight was a design decision. Now I "highly" reccomend playing through the game without any kind of flashlight mod, play it how it's meant to be played! It truly does enhance the experiance, plus there may be a point where you are supposed to be without a flashlight, but I won't offer any spoilers...
Heh well Fistandantilus you should be happy to know that my pistol + flashlight mod shouldn't work in the same situation the flashlight doesn't work. I definately agree that people should play the game without that mod I made but if they don't want to thats fine with me.
Was an interesting first mod to try to make to learn how some things were being done.
Was an interesting first mod to try to make to learn how some things were being done.
put this in your DoomConfig.cfg file
bind "MOUSE2" "toggle r_gamma 1 2"
now when you right click it will toggle the gamma brighter enabling you to see more.
by the way, i voted for i like the current setup because i do think it adds a lot to the game, but if you want you can do this.
bind "MOUSE2" "toggle r_gamma 1 2"
now when you right click it will toggle the gamma brighter enabling you to see more.
by the way, i voted for i like the current setup because i do think it adds a lot to the game, but if you want you can do this.
shaocaholica
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Im definitely going to play it through the way id wanted people to but Im still not 100% in agreement with how they did it. I wonder what kind of mods are being developed with respect to this issue? If I have any free time this next semester, I might see if I can whip something up. Would be nice to have a new model for the shotgun/machinegun with integrated lights and alt-fire melee attack.
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zxdev said:2004- Sprinter Cell. With Night Vision.
21XX - DOOM3 On MARS..with FLash LIGHT (Unlimited Battery or Fuel Cell !!!)
It's called inductive charging. With all the running around you do, you'd damn well better not run out of fuel. Mechanical energy to electrical energy.
I guess the way i look at it, is he just got stationed on Mars. He just started his work then he's being attacked my demons, yeah i like the fact that you can't use the flashlight while holding the gun. Hell you didn't even get a flashlight in the orginal Doom.
NotChunks said:
Word up! I've been hunting for sport since I was 7, and a shotgun itself is pretty heavy if you have to hold it ready for an extended period of time. Adding extra weight to the end of the barrel would be illogical. Props to another shooter!
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my $0.02
At first I thought "man this is gonna suck bigtime" but after playing this game for 6+ hours and bindning the quickswitch key to the mouse 2 button... I realized that this is awesome... it really makes the game for me... Most FPS like farcry and half life with gun mounted lights or nightvision make it so there is no tension... Every time in Doom 3 when I go into a room and I hear that loud POP and all the lights go out and then I hear the Devilish laugh I feel like running home to mommy...I quickly switch to my flashlight and I *feel* like man, I want to be anywhere but here right now... I have never had a game make me feel that way before... There is just no suspense or tension in those other games cause you know you can see well... In doom 3 when the above happens and you start hearing the monsters I am frantically looking around the room with the flashlight... I just cant state enough how awesome it is to have a game make me feel something for a change...
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At first I thought "man this is gonna suck bigtime" but after playing this game for 6+ hours and bindning the quickswitch key to the mouse 2 button... I realized that this is awesome... it really makes the game for me... Most FPS like farcry and half life with gun mounted lights or nightvision make it so there is no tension... Every time in Doom 3 when I go into a room and I hear that loud POP and all the lights go out and then I hear the Devilish laugh I feel like running home to mommy...I quickly switch to my flashlight and I *feel* like man, I want to be anywhere but here right now... I have never had a game make me feel that way before... There is just no suspense or tension in those other games cause you know you can see well... In doom 3 when the above happens and you start hearing the monsters I am frantically looking around the room with the flashlight... I just cant state enough how awesome it is to have a game make me feel something for a change...
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gthompson20 said:
My thoughts exactly.
For the record, adding a ~5 ounce light to a ~7 pound weapon isn't going to make much difference in handling. It will, however, have a huge impact on operational efficiency in a dark environment.ownerizer said:
Mounting lights on tactical rifles, carbines, shotguns, and even handguns is common practice in the real world. More so all the time.
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MiXdNuTs said:
If you use a mod that adds the flashlight to a gun or use the dev tool that adds permenant gamma to where you're pointing, you're totally taking away from the way the game was meant to be played.
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So? Isn't the point to have fun? If your argument is against anything that changes the gameplay then what about all other mods? Look at the co-op mod thats in development. That totally changes the game(especially the scary parts) but its made to be enjoyed which is the point.Xrave said:
Your hunting experiences sure make you smart.ownerizer said:
Hal|9k said:
Sure it will if you put it at the end of the weapon. Its called this thing torque. Now put it back where you hold it and yeah it won't make a difference. Heh and it doesn't look like a 5 ounce flashlight the Doom Marine carries around
Oh and here you go for flashlight on a pistol http://www.geocities.com/cryect/pistolflashlight.html
If you want a flamethrower well over here http://www.geocities.com/cryect/flamethrower.html
MiXdNuTs said:
im making one. the flashlight that you use is SO CRAPPY that it wont make the game "less fun", in fact itll make it MORE fun because all you can see is right in front of you, it helps when shooting stuff, but its more creepy when stuff runs in front of you and you try to see it and shoot it but you can only see part of it in the crappy light
Cryect said:Sure it will if you put it at the end of the weapon. Its called this thing torque. Now put it back where you hold it and yeah it won't make a difference. Heh and it doesn't look like a 5 ounce flashlight the Doom Marine carries around
Oh and here you go for flashlight on a pistol http://www.geocities.com/cryect/pistolflashlight.html
If you want a flamethrower well over here http://www.geocities.com/cryect/flamethrower.html
PLEASE GIVE ME INFO ON HOW TO MAKE MODS, NO ONE ELSE IS HELPING ME
kronchev AT gmail DOT com
Cryect said:Sure it will if you put it at the end of the weapon. Its called this thing torque. Now put it back where you hold it and yeah it won't make a difference. Heh and it doesn't look like a 5 ounce flashlight the Doom Marine carries around
Oh and here you go for flashlight on a pistol http://www.geocities.com/cryect/pistolflashlight.html
If you want a flamethrower well over here http://www.geocities.com/cryect/flamethrower.html
Nice job. I'm gonna finish once without the FL mod, but I'll use it for the later passes through the game.
Ok, let me rephrase, for the sake of clarity. Installing a ~5 ounce light on a ~7 pound weapon DOES NOT have any significant impact on handling, even if you DID strap it to the end of the barrel (which nobody actually does). I'm talking about reality, not theoretical videogame physics. "Torque" has nothing to do with it.Cryect said:Sure it will if you put it at the end of the weapon. Its called this thing torque. Now put it back where you hold it and yeah it won't make a difference. Heh and it doesn't look like a 5 ounce flashlight the Doom Marine carries around
As for the mods you posted, thanks!
Hal|9k said:
In all seriousness you're not target shooting or sniping to begin with, you're mainly shooting from the hip. You could strap a brick to your weapon and still have the same accuracy and probably less scatter under auto or burst fire with a brick on the end of your weapon. If you were to duct tape a bigass flashlight to the barrel guard of your weapon it would not melt off from barrel heat and get the job done. Apparently in 2045 the marines never thought to include duct tape in the MTOE for the Mars base, or it's just locked in one of those false-front cabinets that are just there for show, but you really can't open.
Ok, everyone is talking about how unrealistic it is to not have a flashlight mounted weapon. How realistic is it for 1 person to be able to carry 10 large weapons at the same time and instantly switch to any of them at will? Most people only have 2 arms. The average human being could carry one large weapon, (ie: shotgun or machine gun) 1 side arm, and 1 knife. In this particular respect, Halo is one of the most realistic 3d shooters.
So if you guys want to bitch about not being realistic, you need to bitch about 90% of all 3d shooters.
So if you guys want to bitch about not being realistic, you need to bitch about 90% of all 3d shooters.
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The main difference is that being able to carry 10 huge ass weapons is a positive and makes the game fun yet unrealistic. Not having a weapon mounted flashlight is a negative and is unrealistic. People tend to bitch about the negatives more than the positives.jchahn said:
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jchahn said:
If you consider realistic as: shooting through solid walls, running at super-human speeds, and being able to land head-shots no matter where you're aiming.
kronchev said:
While I wouldn't go so far as to say "SO CRAPPY", I would pretty much agree here. The flashlight only really lights what's in front of you. Even if you were able to equip it with weapons it wouldn't kill the dark and scary feel of the game.
That said, I'm the type of person who tries to enjoy their games rather than bitch about them. I've gotten used to the flashlight and I'm not too worried about it. Could it have been done better? I think so, but what's done is done and I'm not going to let something so minor ruin the game for me.