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Seen quite a few 2600ks on ebay for under 40 bucks and a couple i7 2700ks for 70 ish the other day. Although a hundred bucks gets a ryzon r3 that will hang or beat with both those chips as well as have the upgrade path down the line.

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+1 my old a64 asus a8n 32 sli deluxe mobo in the basement runs without a video card 24/7 as a file sharing/ torrent box. i access remotely with radmin. all i had to do was set the bios to not hault on errors

yes, more than enough.the regular hd gpu on the pentium's and the hd 2000 gpu is just a few features. otherwise they are identical in every regard. the only features that interest me are audio over hdmi, and 264 acceleration. the standard hd gpu does that.

would be surprised if you got a overclocked sandy down that far on air cooling. they seem to run pretty warm.

the apu was crapping out just shy of 4 gig. if you were using one with a discrete gpu and liquid nitrogen 5gig might be attainable.

the thuban prices have gone up because they are out of production. i believe this is the last month distributors can order them from amd. last reports (pre bulldozer launch) was that supply at best would last less than two months. demand has gone up so that's shorter now. amd will sell tons of...

the sb-e quad is cheaper than the 2600's now, the mobo is expected to only add $20-$30 over the current z68 motherboards. that price competitve with the 990x chipset on the amd bulldozer boards.

current i 7's are 6 core's and the sb-e's are 8 cores with 2 disabled to pit in the 130w tdp limit of current desktop boards. you can buy 8 core xeon's if you really want. were not seeing 8 cores on desktops because there is very little need for it. amds design can be reifined but cannot be...

i would say so, current numbers for the slow 2p 8c opterons are within striking distance of a current i7 hex core, the sb-e hex should close that gap and save you a few bucks down the road on your power bill. the upgrade path on the g34 allows you room to grow at least to more cores.

bulldozer has been tested on windows 8 and its not much better.

for a htpc you dont need nearly that much. a pentium g620, a cheap itx mobo, 4 gigs of ram, a ssd and a larger laptop drive all runs on less than a 100w power supply. the sandy bridge hd is like the hd 2000 except it doesnt have quick sink, 3d acceleration or a few other little things. it does...

im still rocking my 939 x2 4200+ and still have a 3500+ on an asus sli mobo in the basment complete with the water cooling still attached.

windows 8 isnt doing much for bulldozer either. toms had a preview on it.

trinity apu is still going to be to slow, its supposed to be 50% stronger than the llano apu, it sounds like a lot until you realize the llano apu is only about half as powerful as a nvidia 9600gt or hd3870 if your an amd fan. with a 50% increase its still slightly slower than a nvidia gt240 or...

i want to see a high end crossfire/ sli test. multiple high end cards can overwhelm a mediocre cpu to the point where you can become cpu bound even under high resolutions with eye candy. the days of 640x480 being the only way to check for cpu bottlenecking is gone. we already see it with i7's...

performance is still shit compared to current x4's and current x4's bottleneck high end cards. i would rather get more performance from an i3 with 2 real and 2 fake cores than 4 crippled cores. however you wont have a choice in the matter because the current athlons and phenoms are now out of...

here is the full number from the comments section, i believe these were the overclocked numbers of nearly 5 gig but i could be wrong.

im most underwhelmed by the piss poor overclocking numbers, 4.6 sounds good when water cooled but than i realize that it runs at 4.1 out of the box when turbo is on. 400mhz is pretty low. the power usage is shocking for me, i had considered it for a big adv folder because of the lower cost but...

he has more but is waiting for nda to lift, reviewer from south korea. he also used a pair of 6990's to test for cpu bottlenecking seen in the crysis tests.

might run out of helium in the next 25-30 years unless it starts to be recycled, and 100 years even if it is recycled. the price is artificially low as a result of a law passed in 1996. to put it in perspective, the suggested cost of one helium balloon should cost around $100 if you use the true...

for me voltage doesn't matter. i don't consider a sb golden until it run at 5.5 or above on water or good air. daily 5.5+ and i will pay extra, less than that and it gets the same price as any other chip. most will 5.0 with enough cooling and voltage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZXhR1ibj8 i remember that one.

i wouldn't upgrade, if anything use programs that take advantage of cuda for encoding. a new amd card wont do you much good if any. mainconcept comes to mind and that could cut your encoding times in half with your cuda card you already have. however if you were using a sandy bridge intel...

close, but disappointing. i was hoping the leaks were right with the 8150 around $245. i would like to upgrade the htpc with one but for around $279 a 2600 is pretty close.

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processors on the side of the box like they used to be.

k has the better hd3000 graphics, i would run one stock.... for about 5 minuites

why does everyone think ivy will blow sandy out of the water? its a god damn die shrink, might clock a little higher and use less energy. the current ivy samples are showing very little ipc improvments. the next jump in performance (the tock) is haswell in 2013. not ivy (tick +)

how is he going to buy an 8 core bulldozer chip (cheapest being about $100 over his budget) when the i3 is the most he can spend? nothing will encode faster than a current gen sandy chip when quicksinc is used. im still doubtfull of the dx11 claims made for bulldozer chips. i do think a quad...

that main concept bench is outdated, they have released an update that uses quicksinc. that knocks the i7 and i3 times to a third of what they were. if he has a cuda enabled nvidia card the amd time could be cut in half just by letting the video card do the work.

could be unstable overclocks than. download afterburner install it and under setting enable voltage slider. try upping the voltage to 1.013mv and retest, if not try 1.025mv and retest. not all cards can run with a low factory voltage applied. happens to all the manufactures from time to time...

try under clocking them a little or getting more air to them you can tell by the upper graph that the cards are overheating and dropping clock speeds as a safety measure. its something you see all the time in folding. if its dropping to 2d clock speeds than the factory overclock is unstable...

passmark takes into account video performance when available so the reason a 2600k is faster than a 2600 is the better hd3000 gpu on the 2600k

all will be a downgrade. the llano's gpu is about 20%-40% slower than a 9600gt, and the 9600gt is 15%-25% slower than a 9800gt. however 1366x768 the llano is playable in quite a few games on low or ultra low settings and even a couple on medium. if you can live with reduced graphics (unless you...

im just a casual user and an old duel core and 2 gigs of ram does me just fine. the most demanding thing i do is watch movies and a i3-2100 will do that without problems.

at the same demo they also were only able to get 4.8 under water.

probly duel socket's. the frequency's dont match up with current xeon nethleham ex octo cores (the x7560 and x7550) even after turbo is applied.

ive found that its the chokes that whine. my msi's have an epoxy coated choke and there fine where as the zotac and evgas that have not had the epoxy coveredd chokes squeel when loded 100% . never did it gaming but would on f@h and when running kombustor.