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fishy1234 said:Based on what I am reading here about the 2407, is it better to wait for it, or just buy the 2405 for gaming?
I currently have radeon 9800 pro video card.
Spock's Beard said:"Ooo aargh" ~ Pirate....
...http://jpstore.dell.com/store/newstore/dhs/snp/proddetails_overview.asp?pid=11451
2407wfp came out in Dell Japan yesterday (20th march)
edit: price is around £700
ZeroH said:When the 2405 first came out it was about $1400 (i think)... now, it's about $1000.. with coupons and discounts, you can get it for about $800... and that's also because they're trying to get rid of them.
With that said, the 2407 will probably be within the $1000 to $1200 with coupons and such. I highly doubt it will be sub $1000. The samsung lcds that, this is possibly based on, is way more expensive than any of these prices. If you can get it below $1000, you'll be very lucky.
neocvera said:I just calle Dell and told them i wanted a new monitor, was looking at the 2405 but noticed that the 2407 launched in Japan, etc, etc. They guy told me that they have put a stop to the 2407 due to "manufacturing defect" and wouldn't be released before the 4th qtr of this year. Then he continued to swing me to buy a 2405, offered a $50 MIR and is planning on calling me later this afternoon.
If the dude calls back with something sweeter than the 50mir, i may just get the 2405.
- oh he also asked where i got the intel about the JP release.
wonkman said:Isn't the 3007 $1200? the 2407 should be well below that. My ubber-speculation would be between $800 - $900 with coupons for the 3007 coming out about the same time to encourage 2407 buyers to splurge and step up.
But then again who knows. Nobody thought the 3007 was going to be as high as $1200 when it came out.
Nzo said:3007 are $2200.
j3ttblack said:Anyone know if the 2407 still uses PVA or did it move to an S-IPS?
JayD said:The current 20% off deal on the 2405 expires on Wednesday. It was supposed to expire last week on Wednesday but got extended. So, perhaps the 2407 is going to be released after the 2405 coupon exires? Makes sense to me.
a ronin said:Overly optimistic, I would say.
I don't have any predictions myself, but the anticipation is driving me up the wall. That said, I will continue to keep checking this thread and others for updates. Those who are eager to pull the trigger on a 2405 should really re-examine the importance of HDCP. It may not be a feature you think you need now, but with the shift the industry is prepared to take, I see it encroaching on other mediums, namely games.
ZeroH said:...
A final note.. from what I've read, HDCP just prevents HD content from being played on a non-HDCP monitor or TV at HD res. It will still play it with a lower res.
I'm not sure but has anyone seen a HDCP compliant TV on the market?
Yes, as far as I'm concern.fishy1234 said:Will we need HDCP monitors just to watch High Definition movies, and not to play games?
agreed.. although how soon will HDCP show up on DVDs? Does it go hand-in-hand with HD-DVD or BluRay? Can regular DVDs have HDCP?bennetvu said:Yes, as far as I'm concern.
ZeroH said:agreed.. although how soon will HDCP show up on DVDs? Does it go hand-in-hand with HD-DVD or BluRay? Can regular DVDs have HDCP?
a ronin said:Overly optimistic, I would say.
I don't have any predictions myself, but the anticipation is driving me up the wall. That said, I will continue to keep checking this thread and others for updates. Those who are eager to pull the trigger on a 2405 should really re-examine the importance of HDCP. It may not be a feature you think you need now, but with the shift the industry is prepared to take, I see it encroaching on other mediums, namely games.
moralpanic said:LOLOL there's no way in HELL they're going to implement that in games. And inaddition to that, the 'shift' in the industry you're talking about, is going the other way. Bluray has already announced they're dropping it... and i wouldn't be surprised if HD-DVD does as well... who's going to buy HD-DVD with that kind of restriction, when they can get Bluray.
a ronin said:I was not aware of this. Score one for the working class folks and long live piracy
ZeroH said:agreed.. although how soon will HDCP show up on DVDs? Does it go hand-in-hand with HD-DVD or BluRay? Can regular DVDs have HDCP?
moralpanic said:LOLOL there's no way in HELL they're going to implement that in games. And inaddition to that, the 'shift' in the industry you're talking about, is going the other way. Bluray has already announced they're dropping it... and i wouldn't be surprised if HD-DVD does as well... who's going to buy HD-DVD with that kind of restriction, when they can get Bluray.
fishy1234 said:I just read this from widescreen gaming forum.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1344
Looks like they are using Samsung panel after all. With that said, does this make it a faster monitor than the 2405 or slower?
wonkman said:LINK?
ZeroH said:It sounds to me from the article that they're only dropping the Image Constraint token which only affects analog output (component/svideo/etc). HDMI will still have HDCP protection when playing BluRay discs.
moralpanic said:http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/14/sony_blu_ray_analogue_image_constraint/
Even if HDMI was implemented, i'm confident enough that eventually there will be a way around it.
moralpanic said:Bluray has already announced they're dropping it... and i wouldn't be surprised if HD-DVD does as well...
Look at the post before yours...
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/14/sony_blu_ray_analogue_image_constraint/
moralpanic said:Well, since i'm pretty sure all displays that have HDMI also has component... what would the problem be?
Askanison said:Assuming all goes well, I'll get the new 2407wfp by the end of this week. Bought at a price just shy of U$700 from dell japan. Just heads up, for the expected price once introduced on your shores.
wonkman said:???
This tread is about the 2407 PC monitor. No PC monitor that I know of has HDMI yet.
HDMI is a connection standard and HDCP is an encryption standard. They are separate things. When HDMI was standardized, HDCP was included. HDCP is not included in the DVI connection standard but can be included by the manufacturer if they choose. Most don't include it (because they have to pay a fee) but a few are starting to add it like Dell.
Just because a HDMI connector has HDCP (as all do) doesn't mean the other connections also have HDCP.
HDMI doesn't really have anything to do with it other than the fact that if you have an HDMI connector, you know HDCP is included by design.
Assuming all goes well, I'll get the new 2407wfp by the end of this week. Bought at a price just shy of U$700 from dell japan. Just heads up, for the expected price once introduced on your shores.
moralpanic said:Well, since i'm pretty sure all displays that have HDMI also has component... what would the problem be?