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The H50 is the quietest solution I have found that allows for moderate OCing. Obviously the NT06 or something would work and be silent but it runs hot.

That performance difference is minor. If anything it is a BIOS issue or just something weird happened.

No news on any mitx boards coming down the pipe. DFI had a nice board but bailed on us. What we need is a mini itx board where they can put all the heat generating components on the top and place a heatsink on it (talkin about the fets here) and then move the cpu socket over where DFI had it...

heatsink on the fets...removable antenna....fets on back...same high price. I'd be interested to see if it performs better now.

Game over man...time to pull out the credit card.

http://www.frostytech.com/top5_lowprofile_heatsinks.cfm Although some are LOUD. Coolermaster GeminII S is VERY loud...I don't like it much.

Ha really? I've long said I believe (as in I have 0 proof) all the motherboards are basically the same design stolen from one another...either that or one plan sold to a bunch of companies. The Qpack for example was duplicated 4-5 times over by different companies (face only). From what I am...

Well Gigabyte does a good job as well.

Right, I'm still excited though. The Fusion processes (just noticed that is wrong in the title...oops) are going to be pretty low end at first. I still think it is a cool concept and am excited ASUS is actually making an AMD product at the beginning stages of a CPU's life-cycle for once.

This is from past experience and I guess it is my opinion as well. It's just not an enthusiast board is what I'm saying.

If case you haven't read: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/08/12/asus-has-amd-fusion-mini-itx-in-development/1 Just a quick titbit for small form factor lovers: in our meeting today with Asus, the company revealed that it's designing a mini-ITX board (which will probably be home...

I'd stay away from Zotac to be honest. They remind me of Jetway back in mATX's first days...kinda weak products but normally the first out there.

Yeah, I've been worried about the PSU....I wish the cables were shorter too!

Fits 1156, not sure why it wouldn't.

I didn't pick up what case you had but with the SG05/SG06 it works. The only problem is the heatsink backplate tends to interfere with a lot of the components on the back of the mobo. I got an example of this at SFFClub.com

I'd say the Gigabyte now even with the garbage CPU placement. Sadly the Lanparty is no more :(

I'd love to but you can probably guess massive site problems and a heavy work load at my real job as caused me to suspend reviews for a bit...booo. Don't be amazed by this but it is basically the same as the SG05 standard PSU only with more juice and it is black with sleeved cables. The cables...

Yes to green....I'm like 60% sure yes for Blue. Check the bottom to see what is on there and post a picture if you can. That might help us out more.

could this heatsink fit?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

For the record, the cable lengths are the same as the SG05/06. Way too long

It won't arrive in the US at the SS warehouse until 1st or 2nd week in July and then another 1-2 weeks to arrive at Newegg.

The problem seems to be the motherboard folks. You might now more than I but it seems like one motherboard design is created and the others either copy or rebadge. From what I remember talking to some folks a few years back you really only have one-two companies making motherboards and then...

A little clarification to what James said. It should arrive at the SilverStone California warehouse on or about the 1-2nd week in July which means retailers a few weeks later. This is the same time the SG07 will arrive (apparently on the same boat).

I'll see if I can get a word with Tony...they should have them by now :)

No, it is not modular but it is sleeved

What Danny said sounds good to me. You can play around with the motherboard if you like...not much different in the current AM3 chipsets (kind of just small upgrades). You are worried mostly about RAM so just get a board that can handle a lot of fast ram well.

I say go with the 342 then.

Kind of disappointed in Gigabyte. There is no reason to put the CPU socket on that side. It only serves to limit you. While i'm not 100% sure, I believe the companies kind of work off the same basic model and just customize it to their own specs...kind of like the Qpack, Micro Fly, etc...

Yeah, it's a huge problem...even more so with the SG07 since putting in an H50 (the best cooler) will be a challenge Interesting that it only used 4pin too.

Just get your everyday AMD or Intel mATX board so you get the 4 ram slots since RAM is most important. I don't think you need to worry more than that :) Gigabyte, ASUS, and maybe MSI seem to make the best mATX boards.

Keep dreaming. SilverStone tells me it will not.

Yeah, I think the 450w PSU needs to become a standard in the SG05 and SG06. The new video cards are just being lame. By the way, the SG06 and SG05 and not any different in internal dimensions for that person saying it was 5mm longer. The extra length is from the front bezel.

You should trim the cables as well....they are just as long as the original which is frustrating because you never need that much slack...and if one of you actually do then screw you because you ruined it for the rest of us :p

It's a workbench...good for people that review like myself :)

another failed SFF attempt by these guys :(

The gigabyte board might not be all it is cracked up to be. The DFi is currently the best board and probably will be for the next few months. The USB issues seem to be a vocal few for wireless adapters but then again no one really knows why they have these issues. Almost like a lucky set of...

Wow, ECS told you that? That is probably the worst support answer I've heard in a long time. The basic answer was "I don't know". It's almost a competition between mobo manufacturers for worst tech support these days.

Looks like the corsair H50 and 5870 are most important to you...I say go with the Cooler Master Elite 341 It is cheap and fits those components.

Oops, didn't read he had a card. You could probably get 2x5770 and come out ahead :) Use them in crossfire. The GTX260 is old.

Frankly the CPU placement is unacceptable. That is not exactly an easy mod. Oh well :) Having fun with it though?