It's also worth looking at the Sony A200 (& A300/A350 if you want LiveView like a p&s) as the Sonys are amongst the simplest cameras to use (but still have all the options if you do want to get more into it).
The A200 is a bargain too at current prices.
Given that I only really came back to Intel with C2D after using exclusively AMD for many years I have no reference of using an IC7 to judge by (I did have a DFI 975 & an Asus P4C800-E Dl though).
However:
AB9 QuadGT without doubt 1 of the top 965 mobos
IP35 series 1 of the top P35 series...
I disagree about the quality going down & I've probably used more of their boards than virtually anyone else here.
They are getting out of the mobo business because they can't get a decent return on investment - they aren't the first to do so & they won't be the last either (especially if the...
You can argue this back & forth as they both have pros & cons (& indeed you can actually argue some of the same exact points from either side as a pro/con) but ultimately current generations of both perform very similarly - let's say to within 1/2 a stop.
A lot of the fud is more marketing...
yes.
Any IP35 Pro with BIOS14 or later (i.e. produced from about 13 months ago) should have turned on OK with a Wolfdale/Yorkie albeit reported temps may have been screwy.
Not certain if they have a BIOS update for EOs yet though.
Of course the Wolfdale/Yorkdale compatability problem...
well iirc an Asus P5N32 uses a Striker PCB, abit IP35 & IP35-E use same PCB etc. etc. - usually they just screenprint 1 & then stick a label over that for the other.
if you have as per pic then you've won a watch, congrats.
They may not have impressed you but a lot of people liked them.
The IP35 series was highly regarded (IP35 Pro considered by many to be the best allround P35 mobo) as were their mATX offerings.
The AX78 is probably the best 770 chipset mobo & the A-S78H is as good a 780G as you will find...
NF7-M wasn't aimed at same user profile as NF7-S, after all it's an IGP mobo.
Possibly didn't have same level of cap. spec. or you were just unlucky but it's what, 5 years old so it's done it's job.
imo the blue/black PCB (e.g. IP35 Pro, IX38/48 etc.) abits are pretty restrained.
Gigabytes (MSI are pretty bad too) do look like an explosion in a paint factory.
I'm going to disagree with that (what a surprise ;)) at least on 462/939
NF7 V2.0 series - legendary
AN8 series (especially Ultra) - terrific mobo. Maybe not the best overclocking nF4 but certainly capable of getting very close & a joy to use.
AN8 32X - imo (& many others) superior to Asus...
what we do know - abit have been having major staff reorg & are in the process of moving HQ premises.
It's a possibility that they are trying to work out who is actually responsible for confirming/denying this?
but they've just released 2 new mobos ...
It's now afternoon in Europe (&...
It's not denial. If they are gone as a mobo manufacturer then that's it & we'll all move to other suppliers, life will go on.
I have seen what unsubstantiated rumours can do to the business of what was a sound company though & the internet can spread that quicker & further than ever though so...
afaik the NF7-S was after the counterfeit capacitor electrolyte plague that affected all mobo manufacturers.
abit were the only manufacturer that were upfront, open & actually did something about it for their customers which is perhaps why more people remember/associate them with it.
drop the CPU : DRAM ratio to 1:1 to take the RAM out of the equation.
Increase fsb again, test etc. & keep doing so until it fails (you'll probably get to ~3.0-3.2GHz) at which point you'll have to start increasing CPU/chipset etc. voltages.
it's a rehashed report based on that of CustomPC the week previously & that's already been denied by abit staff elsewhere.
yes, abit will be making more non-mobo stuff but they aren't currently planning to pull out of mobos - indeed IP43 & IX48 are due in distribution this week at least in Europe.
what he said ^ (although Biostar aren't the only one doing this).
Lots of thes P45 mobos run very relaxed performance level settings to allow for very high fsb. Unless you have something with a very low multi (e.g. Q9300) or a benchmark app that responds very well to fsb then you are probably...
certainly in the UK you will toil to find a BIostar stockist (I only know of 1) & if that is replicated throughout Europe it puts them considerably behind where abit are at in terms of distribution.
It's all rumour atm & ironically the also rumoured problems/withdrawal with nVidia chipsets...
Anandtech claim that P43 fsb overclocking is supposedly going to be restricted to ~400-425fsb but I don't think that anyone has tested a retail mobo yet to see fi t's true.
Q6600 has only been out for ~18 months, 2 1/2 - 3 years is long enough for many things to have been obsoleted.
The new socket isn't likely to become even reasonably affordable for another year or so & will be DDR3 which currently is still pretty highly priced.
As for whether you should wait...
775 will be superceded in under a year.
bear in mind that that single CPU can currently have 4 cores on it though.
if you upgrade every 2 1/2 - 3 years then you are pretty much going to have to resign yourself to not being able to reuse much of your previous system.
Not afaik because awdflash isn't part of the BIOS but needs to be on media.
Making the memory stick bootable is 30 seconds work though & even I managed it first time. :o
OK, Anandtech?
"Many users are already running P35 or X38/X48 motherboards, and outside of bragging rights or for new system builds, there's no reason for such users to look at P45 boards right now. "
It's impossible to give a blanket statement as every setup is different & especially not...
IP35 Pro is still very good.
Only real reason to change would be for the better CF performance & those who just want to run/investigate the latest tech.
To quote Tom's Hardware P45 test:
"Finally, our conclusion is simple: the P45 is a transitional product that makes limited sense. It is...
will we ever see an X58 mobo with it though?
Additional cost & thermal issues.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/14/whoop-ass-turns-groveling
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8412&Itemid=1
the warning level for the digital PWM is 125C & no doubt there is a tolerance for even that so 80C isn't a problem as far as the PWM components are concerned.
780G is an AMD/ATi chipset so VIA has nothing to do with it.
Just get the latest ATi Catalyst & that should cover you for chipset/gfx drivers.
Audio & LAN are Realtek so you neeed to get your drivers for those from their site.